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"Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by Kiro »

notsirius wrote: post #258
Kiro wrote: post #217

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> Everyone agrees AI can't do their job, so it ends up doing everyone else's. In real life I haven't met a single programmer who doesn't think AI can do their job. If someone would actually say that I would immediately think they have hubris and overestimate their skills.

are you saying that all of the programmers you’ve met in real life have automated their work away and are coasting while waiting for their bosses to fire them…? …if not, they’ve found developer work that ai can’t do yet, no?

That was not my point. Maybe we interpret "can't do their job" differently. That said, outside of HN I don't know anyone writing code by hand anymore except people that can't use it due to compliance or work on PLC stuff.

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Post by zelphirkalt »

Typical for HR. Not able to understand the qualifications of others, lauding AI, down-talking other people's work. The number of jobs I would have already gotten, if not for an HR person, who doesn't understand my qualification or the level of it, and if only they had asked a capable engineer to take one good look at my own projects, which I am exposing in my application documents ... The way HR people work, their work-ethics, and the way they do not work, is a huuuge problem.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by buggy6257 »

rciorba wrote: post #369
ibudiallo wrote: post #179

Slight tangent into translations: I read two translations of the book "The Master and Margarita". My first read was so boring I couldn't help but stop reading before the end of the first chapter. I can't find the copy and the name of the person who translated it, but this one had all the Russian nicknames translated. It kept talking about a guy called homeless. I thought it was just a bad book and dismissed it for ye…

I read the first Dune books in Romanian, then re-read the first one in English, and I was amazed at how nice the translation was. I actually prefer it to the original. For example, stillsuit sounds really basic, but distrai, a portmanteau of "a distila" (to distil) and "strai" (old word for clothes) lands differently for me.

Now I’m wondering if “still” is meant to be short for “distill”…

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Post by semiquaver »

buggy6257 wrote: post #373
rciorba wrote: post #369

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I read the first Dune books in Romanian, then re-read the first one in English, and I was amazed at how nice the translation was. I actually prefer it to the original. For example, stillsuit sounds really basic, but distrai, a portmanteau of "a distila" (to distil) and "strai" (old word for clothes) lands differently for me.

Now I’m wondering if “still” is meant to be short for “distill”…

Of course it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Still

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by preg_match »

zuzululu wrote: post #70
rootusrootus wrote: post #29

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More specifically, it is coming for coders . If you make your living by banging out lines of code all day, then you may want to be looking at adjusting your career trajectory. But if that is your job, you are either very junior, or a bit foolish for getting into that situation.

so what is software developer doing if writing code is not part of their job I don't see how not writing code is being offered as a moat, it seems like that is just translating business/stakeholder requirements to architecture/biz processes which is exactly the type of low hanging fruit that AI will capture first or was it your point that the position sits closer to the stakeholders (relatively compared to those lift…

I kind of view it this way. Yes, non-technical people can prompt and write code. But technical people can certainly also do the job of product people. So then, who would you want to do the end-to-end? A SWE, or a product person? Probably a SWE.

As software engineers, our job will expand horizontally. We will shift left, and right. But that’s really fine, because I’ve found SWE can be really good at that.

They’re good at requirements engineering. They’re good at quality assurance. They’re good at technical support. So, why not pay a SWE to be that person?

Or, at least, some SWEs are good at that. The ones that aren’t will struggle I think.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by Markoff »

Some of my clients use the LLM to do QA on my translations, dunno about English, but for smaller languages (think less than 10M speakers) LLM still ain't that good, at least 5-10% LLM suggestions contain hallucinated made-up words which don't even exist.

I can see LLM usable for long paragraphs of text, legal documents, maybe even books if you don't care about artistic quality, but good luck translating software/UI with short strings with hardly any description/screenshots even human has trouble to figure out let alone dumb intelligence.

I already told one of my clients who work for one of the major Chinese companies I can't guarantee quality of translation if they don't provide me variables description and all screenshots are in Chinese, so basically you are blind whether you are translating button, toast with instruction for user or page title, but seems client doesn't care...

Nowadays I don't even bother explaining why are AI reports wrong, it would be huge waste of my time, if 99% are FP.

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Post by tome »

Ancapistani wrote: post #184
pixel_popping wrote: post #96

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I think we actually do believe it, do you believe Fable 5+GPT-5.5 (+ the whole model zoo) in loop with adversarial (no budget limit) or a 10-year experienced SWE? We are talking about "codebases" but realistically we won't even be checking the filetree of them soon, it will be all blind, containerized and verified with pseudo guarantees which are good enough to build serious things. We don't even write documentation…

This is the direction I'm going. For personal projects that I don't plan to share widely, I'm making it a point to not look at the code at all. So far - and to my surprise - I've not only found that this has result in no more bugs than before, but it seems to result in fewer bugs over time. Every time I find a bug or a regression, I add it to the specification. My SDLC requires that every specification have at least…

Silly question, but if you don’t look at the code, how do you know if the test is implemented?

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by sandblast »

madaxe_again wrote: post #65
ixtli wrote: post #46

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I wish more people had casual exposure to professional translators. Its a deeply important, vanishingly small segment of the human population and has been this way for at least many thousands of years. Also, it will continue to be!

I’ve a friend who does simultaneous interpretation at the UN and she’s just… good god, how do you even do that. Oh, and she does it in six languages. And here I am, brain the size of a galaxy, and I fumble my way through every language I speak other than English. Serious respect for the linguists.

> brain the size of a galaxy

Wow, aren't you humble.

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