Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models

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Post by ls612 » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 4:57 PM UTC

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/amazon-ceos-talks-with-u-s-offic...

Amazon CEO's talks with U.S. officials triggered crackdown on Anthropic models
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Post by aix1 » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:09 PM UTC

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

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Post by re-thc » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:12 PM UTC

aix1 wrote: post #2

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

It's not ZDR so none of the megacorps are using it anyway. Microsoft already complained.

If you can't use it then might as well get rid of it.

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Post by aix1 » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:17 PM UTC

re-thc wrote: post #3

aix1 wrote: post #2

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

It's not ZDR so none of the megacorps are using it anyway. Microsoft already complained. If you can't use it then might as well get rid of it.

But Amazon has a fairly large equity position in Anthropic. Why mess with that?

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Post by timmg » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:18 PM UTC

> Researchers at Amazon had used a series of prompts to get Anthropic’s Fable 5 model to provide them with information that could be used to aid cyberattacks...

All models can do that. I wonder if they found Fable was significantly better at it.

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Post by whynotmaybe » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:19 PM UTC

aix1 wrote: post #2

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

In business, nothing's off limit to destroy others.

You can be better, or you can report them for any "illegal" stuff.

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Post by gen220 » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:21 PM UTC

Amazon is a large Anthropic shareholder (>5% of the cap table).

I think it’s impossible to interpret the actions of their executives here without considering this information.

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Post by deafpolygon » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:23 PM UTC

aix1 wrote: post #4

re-thc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not ZDR so none of the megacorps are using it anyway. Microsoft already complained. If you can't use it then might as well get rid of it.

But Amazon has a fairly large equity position in Anthropic. Why mess with that?

Drive it down so they can buy more equity?

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Post by Lerc » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:25 PM UTC

One of the things that I have come to trust the least in journalism is any WSJ story that says "people familiar with the matter said"

Can anyone find another source for this?

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Post by SpicyLemonZest » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 5:27 PM UTC

aix1 wrote: post #2

Given Amazon's fairly large equity stake in Anthropic, I really don't get their motivation. Anyone care to speculate?

I would speculate that they were concerned, as many people familiar with frontier AI models are, that they are dangerous and could be misused to do bad things.