Live data from Hacker News

CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

innovativegenomics.org

211–220 of 239 posts

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#211
post #146

Does anyone know a website where I can see/read of how many cancers (and their variants) we've effectively solved, have drugs to negate their effects, have experimental drugs for and uncurable cancers? I think that graph would be awe inspiring looking at the past decade of advancements. What's more crazy is that we're slowly going from millenia, to decades, to likely years in the near future from being presented a bi…

It's not as great as you might think, despite all the stories you see like this one. That's because most of the stories are in cells (this one) or mice. The big success story, about 20 years old now, is testicular cancer. You can have metastatic testicular cancer with tumors all over your body (like Lance Armstrong had) and they can cure it. They use platinum based chemotherapy and it's not really well understood why…

There are lots of other success stories too. For example there is a reason why Keytruda is the most valuable medicine globally -- it does amazing things against melanoma and lung cancer

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#212

Does anyone know a website where I can see/read of how many cancers (and their variants) we've effectively solved, have drugs to negate their effects, have experimental drugs for and uncurable cancers? I think that graph would be awe inspiring looking at the past decade of advancements. What's more crazy is that we're slowly going from millenia, to decades, to likely years in the near future from being presented a bi…

It's difficult to do that because we don't even really know how many cancers there are. Cancer is best understood as a family of tens of thousands of diseases. They're a whole range of different genetic changes that can happen which result in similar categories of symptoms and consequences. They can also be incredibly complex, such as being the result of hundreds of stacking genetic defects acquired over a lifetime.…

> Cancer is best understood as a family of tens of thousands of diseases

There's a site that lists the AWS instance types, so maybe...

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#213
post #50

CRISPR is an extremely overhyped approach which found a marketing engine via popular science. There is 1 FDA approved CRISPR therapy as compared to 7 for AAV and 7 for Lentivirus. Counting all viral vector therapies that have been approved, we’re sitting at 19 approved therapies versus 1 for CRISPR. I think CRISPR ideas in a lab are just an easy way into the mainstream press, but viral vector delivery is the real fut…

You're correct about CRISPR Cas9. The off-target affects are difficult to manage. The paper describes Cas12a2. This is a different mechanism with discovery origins in - of all things - agriculture. It does not attempt in any way to reprogram cells. It uses a guide protein to locate a specific mutation with exacting precision and, when it activates, unleashes total destruction of the cell. The implications of Cas12a2…

May I ask, how much money you have spent so far on this effort?

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#215

The idea of using CRISPR/Cas to detect tumor-specific mutations that aren't necessarily oncogenic and then kill the cell is not a new one [0, 1, 2]. However, previous studies used Cas9, which just damages the DNA at the target site; this uses Cas12a2, which is far more destructive because it shreds the chromatin in the cell once activated by detecting the target sequence. As with any cancer treatment, it's likely the…

But cancer isn't an organism. Cancer cells in any specific individual may evolve that way, but "human cancers" as a group will not. (The only way they could is by evolving human DNA, but "survival of the fittest" pushes the opposite direction for that.)

It's not very relevant here, but curiously some cancers are, in fact, contagious organisms. The most famous example is the devil facial tumour disease. Luckily cases of transmissible cancer in humans are extremely rare (if you count only transmission of cancer itself and not the cancerogenic agents).

Another curious case of "cancer being an organism" is the HeLa line derived from cervical cancer cells taken from a woman called Henrietta Lacks.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#217
post #5

What economic / political model would cause the society to prioritize this over adtech? It seems so unsettling that brilliant human minds are trying hard, every day, to figure out how to make it impossible to bypass watching ads on YouTube, instead of helping cure cancer.

I said it elsewhere but I'll say it here - we need one of the top 10 richest people in the world - the Bezos, the Musks etc - to suddenly get very interested at a personal level about cancer treatment. Then the money will flow.

Zuck has a lot of money in biohub iirc

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#218
post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as great as you might think, despite all the stories you see like this one. That's because most of the stories are in cells (this one) or mice. The big success story, about 20 years old now, is testicular cancer. You can have metastatic testicular cancer with tumors all over your body (like Lance Armstrong had) and they can cure it. They use platinum based chemotherapy and it's not really well understood why…

I think some class of melanomas and small-cell lung cancers went from 6 month survival to now completely "cureable" using immunology drugs

You’re probably thinking about non-small cell lung cancers. Small cell lung cancer (SCLC) is still absolutely devastating. The most progress made on SCLC has just been getting people to stop smoking, as its almost exclusively a smoker’s disease.

Anyways, I studied SCLC in grad school and saw lots of scans of people with tumors from their heads to their feet, and saw the enormous resources dedicated to caring for SCLC patients and to searching for a cure. It’s hard to overstate how profoundly evil the cigarette companies were and still are. They got people (children) addicted knowing what was coming for them, knowing they were killing them in horrific ways. Now we all get to pay for that in funerals and tax dollars.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#219
post #194

The idea of using CRISPR/Cas to detect tumor-specific mutations that aren't necessarily oncogenic and then kill the cell is not a new one [0, 1, 2]. However, previous studies used Cas9, which just damages the DNA at the target site; this uses Cas12a2, which is far more destructive because it shreds the chromatin in the cell once activated by detecting the target sequence. As with any cancer treatment, it's likely the…

Surely a far simpler way to evolve resistance would be a trivial mutation in the p53 transcript that the guide RNA is looking for.

In practice, you’d use multiple guides targeting multiple mutations, so that the probability of having/acquiring multiple resistance mutations abrogating every guide from binding would be infinitesimal.

Re: CRISPR tech selectively shreds cancer cells, including "undruggable" cancers

#220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't written about it publicly, but I can elaborate here. I don't mind answering further questions about it even if you believe they'd make me uncomfortable - they won't. I've come to terms with what's happening to my body and that I may not benefit from my efforts. Background: ~3 years ago I was diagnosed with a very rare MPLW515L-driven blood cancer known as a myeloproliferative neoplasm. My hematopoietic stem…

My aunt had the same disease you mention and was on medications since the 90s. She lead a healthy life with no real side effects from her medication and she passed away last year in her 80s. To be perfectly honest, she did die of the disease, because her medication stopped working and her bone marrow was all scarred. But up until a year before she passed away she was very active and healthy. Once the medication stopp…

> I just wanted to reassure you that the name sounds scary but the current treatment appears to work well

Even a charitable read is condescending. This person just wrote they are in the innermost research circles. I think they are beyond the "scary name" - needs reassurance phase.

Post reply on HN