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Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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i am surprised nobody talked about security...i am guessing the OBD interface in cars can be used to send commands to various components....could somebody hack into your car??

Modern vehicles report OBD-II signals over Controller Area Network, which is used to link most the controllers in your vehicle. All cars after 2008 in the states use CAN for OBD-II. Most manufacturers have the OBD-II CAN bus connected to the engine controller for diagnostic purposes. If you can gain control of the CAN bus, you can do some real damage to the car. Furthermore, the hardware must write to the bus to get…

This, a million times this. My understanding also is that the ODB port on many/most vehicles goes straight into the CAN bus controlling everything in the car. It's entirely possible you could gain control over any microcontroller in the car, send false messages, drown the bus, etc. through a device like this. It's a TERRIBLE idea from a security perspective.

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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Wow! A HUGE market that escaped everybody’s attention! There are a few comments that come to mind: First, this Modj.io company provides free testing ground for car companies to see if there is really a wide demand for such feedback mechanisms in public. At the first sight, I would say that there is, as they outlined in their sample use cases in the video. Second, the only chance that Modj.io has for survival is a qui…

I don't think it escaped everybody's attention.. there are several companies/people working on this.

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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There is a community of OBD2 hackers out there working on this same problem w/ Arduino / Raspberry Pie. In my opinion, this is a feature that will be replaced by manufacturers embracing open APIs for the benefit of a more connected environment. So, while timely now, it will eventually be displaced.

If you want to build your own, start with OpenGuage: http://code.google.com/p/opengauge/

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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post #38

I see the advantage of having a sim (the real remote monitoring part) but also the disadvantage of needing a dataplan for the sim and security concerns ... why not just make a bluetooth dongle for a fraction of the price ...

What is the Bluetooth going to connect to when the car owner isn't the one driving?

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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post #38

I see the advantage of having a sim (the real remote monitoring part) but also the disadvantage of needing a dataplan for the sim and security concerns ... why not just make a bluetooth dongle for a fraction of the price ...

It seems that it's got some sort of whispernet type service, but I agree with you, paying for data would make this way less useful.

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

#47

i am surprised nobody talked about security...i am guessing the OBD interface in cars can be used to send commands to various components....could somebody hack into your car??

ODB means On Board Diagnostics. A majority of vehicles only report information - its not generally a control interface.

You can indeed "hack" your car. In fact, ECU flashing is one of the most common upgrades for people who want more power out of their cars because it requires no physical parts.

It's generally done commercially [1][2] though there are attempts at user-configurable software [3]. Now I'm no expert on ECU flashing so these links are just examples.

[1] http://changegears.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/apr-stage-1-ecu-... [2] http://www.velocityfactor.net/scripts/prodview.asp?idproduct... [3] http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?option=com_content&view...

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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Considering the possibilities, I'm very much surprised that Google hasn't entered this space to supplement their traffic intelligence. Just look at the possibilities of the Torque Android app and this Mojio dongle to see how powerful it is. If Google came out with a bluetooth OBD-II dongle, they could integrate it into Google Maps/Nav and Google Now, both on Android and iOS. And you don't need an expensive cellular c…

I'm confused, how does getting the speed directly from the car improve directions and heads-up display of speed over getting the speed from the GPS unit?

Re: Moj.io: Connect your car to the world around you

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I don't understand why it was designed to fit nicely in your hand, and why it was made with bright colors. #1. This thing will be under your steering wheel 100% of the time, so being able to hold it ergonomically doesn't make a lick of sense. #2. If one of your advertised functionalities is for recovery after theft, the last thing you want is for the thief to be able to spot the dongle and remove it. If I bought one,…

It is my understanding that hockey tape is electromagnetically transparent for most purposes.
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