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Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by throw310822 »

Matl wrote: post #54
inglor wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

> my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot I appreciate your experience. I have no doubt there's indeed been an increase in such comments. I think it's important to note that the Israeli government does work very hard to conflate Zionism with Judaism, (which itself seems antisemitic to me), making it harder for some to separate the two. > There are…

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by RobotToaster »

pipes wrote: post #58
watwut wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they? Like, which exactly?

Rockets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun He later worked at NASA.

Don't say that he's hypocritical

Say rather that he's apolitical

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?

That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by breppp »

inglor wrote: post #29

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I am an Israeli and though I dislike this certain brand of companies and would never work in one, I am not sure this is strictly bad.

I assume these were hired by a local candidate (unless someone can think who has a deep interest in French municipal elections)

Currently the only actors who use fake social accounts for election manipulation are the Russians, Chinese, Iran and Qatar.

The west is completely powerless in either fighting back, regulating social networks or coming up with a technological solution.

As democracies are being undermined by foreign influence, from Brexit, to the US elections, I'd rather local parties would have access to these tools than the alternative, and that would be only done using private companies.

Of course the better alternative is getting rid of fake accounts and making social media into a unicorn and bunnies hate-free zone, don't think we are headed there though

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by jdw64 »

inglor wrote: post #37
Matl wrote: post #31

Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

Personally, I think you're going through a hard time. An individual and a country are different, but people do rely to some extent on the image of a country when judging an individual. I agree with your logic, so I'll give you an upvote

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

inglor wrote: post #37
Matl wrote: post #31

Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

Israeli here - I'll try to write this the least political as I can since I on one hand disagree strongly with the government and on the other my experience has been getting antisemstic (yes, not anti-zionist) comments whenever this gets discussed a lot (and likely downvotes but who cares I've been here 10 years and have more fake points than is important anyway). Israel has several "cores" of technology. The military…

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Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by Gud »

trimethylpurine wrote: post #61
tdeck wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of what good things other Israeli companies might be doing, it's clear that the Israeli government doesn't have a problem with these malware / spyware companies.

Which government are you comparing to?

Any other small country?

You rarely read about Finland spying on other nations, or trying to influence their politics.

There is the AIPAC, I challenge you to find anything similar from any other country.

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by croes »

free652 wrote: post #41
WhatsName wrote: post #35

I predict that this will be flagged very soon. I would love for HN to publish some data on likes/flags, even anonymous IDs with some infos like account age and number of posts. Sure someome will argue things here get flagged cause they are political, but I don't buy that.

>Sure someome will argue things here get flagged cause they are political, but I don't buy that. Are you saying that this isn't political? It's literally about politics. The comments section will be predictable and it will be flagged for that. Do you disagree?

UK‘s censorship and surveillance is also political.

Do they get flagged?

Re: Israeli firm BlackCore suspected of meddling in New York and Scotland votes

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Post by bell-cot »

Matl wrote: post #31

Last time I suggested on a similar story that there's a disproportionate number of firms in Israel with an explicit focus on subversion, manipulation, spying and malware, seemingly because a large portion of the Israeli population gain a certain expertise in these fields as part of serving in the IDF and working to suppress Palestinians, I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups work…

> ... because apparently there's many more Israeli startups working on medical research, green technology and world peace.

> If there are, they certainly would do no harm in being more vocal ...

Perhaps, but - talk to someone who's done PR work for startups. Ask them what it would take for an Israeli startup working on, say, home bagel-making machines to get the sort of world-wide media attention that any Israeli creep-tech firm can get - for free - by association with a few nefarious deeds.

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