Streisand effect?
Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
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Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I thought RAND was just a contraction of Research And Development?
I suppose this is about Ayn Rand. I haven't read her books, but from what I hear they aren't very nuanced though.
Her books are mostly about genius caring people being held back from their plan of helping humanity into a golden age by more stupid evil people and regulation and so on.
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#73Palantir is clearly a mind-boggling on-the-nose, but terrible name to those familiar with the book. The Palantiri consistently provided their users technically accurate intelligence that lead to disastrous strategic decisions. Denethor committed suicide out of despair, after a palantir showed him the black fleet approaching, but he did not know that it was actually Aragorn who had captured the fleet and was coming wi…
> I honestly can't think of a worse name for a company that provides intel for strategic decision making. Yet the choice is very effective at telling those with eyes to see that the one who chose the name possesses only a surface-level understanding of what appears to be his favorite piece of literature.
The man seems to have severe difficulty interpreting fiction. See: his antichrist ramblings (sorry, "lectures").
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#74Wait europe doesn't want to buy spy tech that spies on europe? Shocking.
Sadly german law enforcement is definitely on the Palantir train..
https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-expands-use-of-palantir-...
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, Aragorn used the information he got from the Palantir of Orthanc to make a correct and very important strategic decision, to take the Paths of the Dead so that he could stop the Corsairs in time to save Minas Tirith. So the lesson is that you have to use the intel you get wisely, or else very bad things will happen. I'm not sure if that makes the name any better for the tool it's applied to, though.
The actual lesson was that you need to be the trueborn king who can claim the palantiri by birthright if you want to use them for good. Even then, it requires great effort. Bad things will happen if anyone else tries to use the palantiri, no matter how great and powerful they are.
So .. who is the trueborn king today?
I believe there is no shortage of aspirants.
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#76Palantir is clearly a mind-boggling on-the-nose, but terrible name to those familiar with the book. The Palantiri consistently provided their users technically accurate intelligence that lead to disastrous strategic decisions. Denethor committed suicide out of despair, after a palantir showed him the black fleet approaching, but he did not know that it was actually Aragorn who had captured the fleet and was coming wi…
Saruman was already rotted by lust for the ring when he began to use the Palantir and then came into the presence of a dominating and corrupting will. So yeah... plenty of real world versions of that.
Do you have a citation for that? I read the books a long time ago, but I was sure that he was corrupted through the palantir
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
except of course that Tolkien, as a Catholic was quite adamant that he didn't write a story of Western chauvinism. The sword is not a metaphor for industrialization, which is quite literally the villain of the story, it's a symbol for restored kingship and hope.
tolkien largely copied the nibelungsenlied and accidentally inherited western chauvinism and many other ideas from that lore, including especially a great amount of racism
Nibelungenlied (not Nibelungsenlied) was racist? That needs a citation
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#78Anyone who has read The Lord of The Rings has exactly zero reasons to trust Palantir.
Well it’s kind of the same with Rand. That’s their thing, they read these books as preteens and the nuance is lost on them
> Well it’s kind of the same with Rand. That’s their thing, they read these books as preteens and the nuance is lost on them
In the case of Ayn Rand, it is questionable whether there's nuance to be found.
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#79Wait europe doesn't want to buy spy tech that spies on europe? Shocking.
Switzerland is not part of the European union (nor a member of the European Economic Area) but your point still stands
Re: Palantir loses legal challenge against Swiss investigative magazine
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
The actual lesson was that you need to be the trueborn king who can claim the palantiri by birthright if you want to use them for good. Even then, it requires great effort. Bad things will happen if anyone else tries to use the palantiri, no matter how great and powerful they are.
So .. who is the trueborn king today? I believe there is no shortage of aspirants.
Easy. Nobody. The extreme power this gives will corrupt anyone in the real world.