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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by raincole »

stingraycharles wrote: post #61

So isn’t the only logical conclusion that we have reached the max of model capabilities that the US allows to be made available to the public? Why invest in smarter models with this precedent? And potentially more importantly: if a model like Mythos, which at best is an incremental improvement over Opus, is getting this treatment, how are all the AI investments that are based on the expectation of ASI / AGI / signifi…

The logical conclusion is that the US administration has decided to run the country like a robber baron and is demanding bribes from AI companies. The only question is whether EU and China can effectively attract American researchers.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by reacharavindh »

The cynic outside observer of this administration’s mode of operation wonders if someone from OpenAI visited someone at the Trump admin and offered some benefit if they could scuttle Anthropic until they could catch up….

I’m looking for that news article in the next weeks…

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by pawelduda »

jelling wrote: post #369

Did Anthropic, unlike Open AI, forget to offer free equity to the government? “Thats a pretty nice IPO you got there… it would be a shame if something happened to it.”

Yeah pretty sure this will be reversed as soon as certain someone acquires a hefty amount of pre IPO shares

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by Nition »

I'm surprised how much of the discussion here is taking the angle of "Anthropic pretended this model was soooo dangerous for months as marketing, and it seems like someone decided to believe them!"

First, Anthropic was founded by people who we know were worried about AI safety and signs point to that still being the case. It's really cynical to say it was all an exaggeration for marketing.

Second, this isn't Moller promising a fantastic working flying car next year. The model did what Anthropic said it could do.

I realise that ruling out "they bought Anthropic's scaremongering" brings up the question of why the government would block Mythos/Fable, but not the roughly-as-capable and less restricted GPT5.5. However we do know for a fact that they dislike Anthropic more than OpenAI right now.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by haritha-j »

easton wrote: post #111

A company with different taste would redo that apple ad from the Power Mac era: “this model has been classified a munition”. https://youtu.be/l2ThMmgQdpE

Different taste? The main advertising line for mythos was that it was too dangerous to let people use it?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by I_am_tiberius »

rippeltippel wrote: post #685

If I were Dario Amodei, I would start relocating Anthropic to the EU, where there's a huge interest in supporting domestic AI. Also, EU politics are so fragmented that a suspension like this one would be very hard to be agreed. Yann LeCun got that right with AMI Labs.

You'd need to relocate all employees and close all offices in the US. I don't know any Anthropic employees, but I guess their moral has limits and they would never do that. They would also lose valutable time and fall behind openai during that time.

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Post by eltrain »

kstrauser wrote: post #243

Their other models are having a rough time of it, too: https://honeypot.net/2026/06/12/anthropics-leaning-in-to-the... I wonder if they pulled Fable because it had too high of a “dangerous session” count. If so, I wonder if they’ve considered that their “dangerous session” detector has lost its damn mind this week. (BTW, that screenshot is 100% real. I was walking to work this morning and a random song played. I had…

I love the UI in the screenshot. Which interface is it?
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