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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by walterlw »

MachineBurning wrote: post #100
uludag wrote: post #21

> I actually have another draft post in the barrel about how I think we should see a resurgence of the ‘flash game’ renaissance because it has become so much easier to make fun little games with AI tooling. I have been lurking on the aigamedev subreddit to see exactly what sort of games people are coming up with and I can say I have been incredibly disappointing. I've been faithfully trying the games people post and…

Game design is hard. Back in the day I released 4 flash games. 2 completely tanked, 1 did ok, and one went quite well (hundreds of years total time spent in game). There's a lot to getting it right, and like all software, you have to built it for your target market. There's no easy AI solution to getting a fun and engaging core loop. Nor is there one for building the right level of complexity and balancing the learni…

On the other hand it should be so much easier to port full games to mobile. For example Stacklands is a game that would feel right at home on a iPhone or iPad, but currently it's not an app I can download and play on a bus.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by dns_snek »

coldtea wrote: post #168
dns_snek wrote: post #128

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> unless you presume government is beneficial That's the constitutional bedrock of our societies. That doesn't mean it's always true but if you denounce that as a legitimate and achievable goal then you don't have a society anymore.

> That's the constitutional bedrock of our societies. That doesn't mean it's always true but if you denounce that as a legitimate and achievable goal then you don't have a society anymore. Sure you do. You just don't have a society that looks like ours does. And that doesn't necessarily mean monarchy or fascism or chaos as the only alternative. The society you do get, might still even have a government too! Thinking…

> Sure you do. You just don't have a society that looks like ours does.

You've skipped a few steps, until you overthrow the government all you have a broken society with a system of governance that's deemed to be illegitimate, therefore its rules and actions are illegitimate.

If you want to tear up the constitution and implement a new system of governance with "less government" then you're effectively advocating for a revolution. Just be honest and don't try to sell this as an incremental policy change.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by YeahThisIsMe »

hmry wrote: post #118
rustcleaner wrote: post #101

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US still has the second amendment and the most guns per person of any country in the world (more than 10x the average), yet I don't see anybody "fight back against the benefactors"

The people who are really into guns and the second amendment are somehow on the side of their oppressors.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by psychoslave »

simonask wrote: post #74
psychoslave wrote: post #65

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There is not much example of actual democracy at scale though. Even Switzerland which is often cited as the closest form of actual democratic governance is still not ticking all of the basics of a democratic checklist.

No. The average Democracy Index of Western Europe is 8.05 (full democracy), while the US scores 7.65 (flawed democracy, trending downwards). Just below Poland, just above Botswana. You might shrug and say "well pobody's nerfect", but the disparity between the American narrative and the reality is actually quite extreme. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

Is the index measuring how wealth distribution minimize disparity? How policies debates are driven by spontaneous needs from general public, and how solutions are proposed and refined through open to everyone debates, how programs (not some random face) are voted be it as whole or per compatible submodules? How imperative mandate are dully applicated and how any tentative of corruption is punished with several years of being forbidded of taking any mandate?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by cbg0 »

graemep wrote: post #183
smooc wrote: post #109

This should be a red herring for Europe (and others using US models). Every non-American company is now at a disadvantage against American companies. The implications can not be overstated.

Google Deepmind is headquartered in the UK and has R & D in multiple countries. How would the US ban non-nationals from using something that is largely developed outside the US by people who are not US nationals? Mistral might be a bit behind but this might give them a lot more business. Most of all, a lot more people will switch to Chinese models. They will catchup, soon enough. I have not had much of a chance to tr…

The US can create sanctions with legal repercussions, the same way they've done with Iran or Cuba in the past.

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Post by boppo1 »

imjonse wrote: post #126
dxuh wrote: post #64

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I think it should be noted that the current government, which did this silly thing, belongs to a party that is pretty much advertising on wanting to be a smaller government that gets involved less. That is a large part of why people vote for them.

Small government has always been a euphemism for a government working on less distribution of wealth. Governments always intervene in the economy one way or another.

No but lots of republicans vote for them actually hoping for smaller less interventionary government, believe it or not. The voters that give them power do not view it as that euphemism.

It's a fairy tale, but they do believe/hope for it.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by simonask »

psychoslave wrote: post #194
simonask wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The average Democracy Index of Western Europe is 8.05 (full democracy), while the US scores 7.65 (flawed democracy, trending downwards). Just below Poland, just above Botswana. You might shrug and say "well pobody's nerfect", but the disparity between the American narrative and the reality is actually quite extreme. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

Is the index measuring how wealth distribution minimize disparity? How policies debates are driven by spontaneous needs from general public, and how solutions are proposed and refined through open to everyone debates, how programs (not some random face) are voted be it as whole or per compatible submodules? How imperative mandate are dully applicated and how any tentative of corruption is punished with several years…

Their methodology is freely available, you can easily find the answers to those questions.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by boppo1 »

hurtigioll wrote: post #164
tdeck wrote: post #132

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The US has plenty of guns. The idea that there aren't sufficient guns for some kind of armed resistance is absurd. The issue is cultural - we'd apparently rather fire them off in schools and malls and movie theaters.

how useful will those guns be against an army of AI driven drones just look at what's going on in Ukraine right now

More than you'd think but it'd get unbelievably ugly. Reign of terror would look like a cakewalk.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by the_gipsy »

logicchains wrote: post #190
echelon wrote: post #99

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Most of the people on HN thinking this stuff is garbage won't be working in tech in five years. There simply won't be jobs for them. The risk is that all of these very incredibly smart and disgruntled people decide to do something about it. Elite overproduction, but instead as a result of enormous shift in supply side economics.

>these very incredibly smart The incredibly smart ones are able to use AI to multiply their productivity. The ones having a bad time with it from vibe coding and vague prompting aren't that.

Is this "multiplied productivity" in the room with us right now?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by boppo1 »

dudefeliciano wrote: post #189
rustcleaner wrote: post #176

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It raises the risks for the enforcers taking a paycheck to oppress the [subset of the] population. Bullies think twice when they can be punched square in the face.

Riiiiight, it doesn't just make the bully invest billions in military grade weapons to be used against civilians. Soon you'll have superdrones with superguns patrolling the US and you will still be clinging to your right to carry a musket.

2A people don't want the right to carry a musket, they want the right to those same superdrones. You are framing their desires in bad faith.
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