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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by zkmon »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #450

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

I think you are missing the bigger picture that is around the "bigger picture" you are seeing. AI proliferation is more dangerous than nukes proliferation, as any highly capable tech would enable destructive usecases as well. If nukes related material and knowledge was safeguarded, then AI requires it as well.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by devkakadiya »

holmesworcester wrote: post #488

I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government. Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control. This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They a…

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by iamEAP »

Surprised not to really see any comments on the financial incentives of this move, especially in the context of the “supply chain risk” classification earlier this year.

Is there no one in government who would stand to gain from a financially handicapped Anthropic in the context of an OpenAI IPO?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by kunalBOOP »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #450

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by aocallaghan17 »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #450

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

The huge investment into LLMs at a loss is about having control of these tools and technology. Now we're seeing a state try to take some control.

But who do you trust more to make these decisions? A democratically elected government or a private company?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by nurettin »

I'm not going to downplay it. I've been coding since the 80s and using these models since 2023. 10 minutes after using fable I told my colleague this is a new era. It is the difference between sonnet and opus. I didn't think this was possible.

It was over before this announcement. After a couple of days, even though the model was set to fable, it felt like opus. We are back to sticks and stones.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by biztos »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #450

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

> but in practice, even if you are

That part is up to Anthropic. KYC[0] is not exotic, it's just a pain in the butt: if Fable is that good, they can do the KYC.

I don't think this is the right move from the government, but we shouldn't pretend that "citizens only" is an insurmountable hurdle for a company that just got a $65B capital infusion.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

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