There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

Post by temporaryacc2 » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 8:00 AM UTC

rustcleaner wrote: post #130

simianwords wrote: post #110

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I fully agree and this other side of excessive scepticism people are ruining it for everyone else. They are a big distraction. They keep saying things like: - Anthropic is just doing this for marketing stunt - AI is like NFT's - circular deals - the bubble will burst anytime soon - the hype bro's are propping up the stock market so that they can exit quick like grifters (I just made the last one up to force terminolo…

>This is really distracting because the main problem here is that AI is getting too powerful to be just handed out to normal people like us. We need a Second Amendment for AI: the right to keep and bear strong AI shall not be infringed. This safety handwringing is going to solidify the state's monopolies over its subjec... err citizens. The state is the farmer, and we are the cows.

Post by tao_oat » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 8:01 AM UTC

modeless wrote: post #22

> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

Post by krackers » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 8:02 AM UTC

somesortofthing wrote: post #84

I've really come around to trusting OpenAI a lot more than Anthropic the past few months. Reading between the lines of his own output, Dario Amodei comes off as both a dogmatic believer in ASI as a perfect, infallible ruler for humanity and quite an extreme American nationalist. The company, likewise, looks to be in ideological lockstep. I could see them, say, allowing or consciously creating runaway ASI they believe…

Post by rustcleaner » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 8:03 AM UTC

temporaryacc2 wrote: post #142

rustcleaner wrote: post #130

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>This is really distracting because the main problem here is that AI is getting too powerful to be just handed out to normal people like us. We need a Second Amendment for AI: the right to keep and bear strong AI shall not be infringed. This safety handwringing is going to solidify the state's monopolies over its subjec... err citizens. The state is the farmer, and we are the cows.

Safety handwringing? Mythos found 1000 zero days in a few weeks - if I had asked your thoughts on this a few years ago, I'm sure it would've been "that is a super-weapon". Plus, scaling laws are impossible to deny: More compute = more intelligence. AI is going to completely redefine the role of human cognitive ability - if you think this is about "state monopoly", you're really thinking too small.

Post by olalonde » Sat, Jun 13, 2026, 8:05 AM UTC

dudefeliciano wrote: post #108

olalonde wrote: post #83

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Those days are long gone. Trump is much more of a statist when it comes to the economy. Not that surprising coming from a long-time Democrat.

> Those days are long gone. > Not that surprising coming from a long-time Democrat. So repubblicans have not been about small government for a long time and Trump is not even a pure-blood repubblican so it was to be expected that he would do the thing that repubblicans have not been about for a long time...what in the circular reasoning? Oh and please name one repubblican president who successfully reduced spending o…