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There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Mistral in the EU, for one.

they already firmly in irrelevant territory

> irrelevant territory

Not for the EU. Given the political importance of LLMs and the talent pool in France (let alone rest of the EU), I fully expect them to catch up.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Despite advertising themselves as such, the party hasn't been for actual small government at least during my entire lifetime (40+ years).

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The US has plenty of guns. The idea that there aren't sufficient guns for some kind of armed resistance is absurd. The issue is cultural - we'd apparently rather fire them off in schools and malls and movie theaters.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Counterintuitively, this is a huge win for misAnthropic and other closed labs in the US. They can nerf the models, ask for IDs from users and do what it takes to comply with whatever regulation they've been fighting for. Foreign labs releasing open source models won't be able to comply, and as a result open source models will remain stunted at pre-mythos levels or their use will be criminalized. We should look past t…

Why would foreign (relative to the US) models suddenly sit still? There's enormous incentive to improve; surely they'll be able to figure out how just like their American counterparts?

We've seen this movie before with crypto export bans in the 90s. The rest of the world caught up and then surpassed the US very quickly - and that was without the enormous financial incentives of AI.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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But in democracy you do get to say which government you want.

You can pick which of the two possibilities, neither of which is even close to your political views, will oppress you for the next 4 years.

Another prediction win for the Simpson's [1].

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8hDsIoEFYw

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

If no government ever got involved we would all be slaves to a family of inbred kings.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

American hostility to the whole concept of government has led you to Trump’s brand of gangster capitalism (which will lead you to fascism if you let it). Government intervention is good and useful and keeps a markets free and society fair, preventing things like monopolies, robber barons and insider trading. When those constraints are removed, when government becomes the source of corruption, we end up wheee the US h…

> where companies that bribe government officials get preferred treatment

Do you think lobbying did not exist prior to two years ago?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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The excessive scepticism on Hacker News has poisoned any attempts at rational AI discourse. The American Government has weaponised state power in a clumsy, corrupt and punitive attack against Anthropic, in an escalating war over control of AI. Meanwhile, HN has anchored on "marketing hype" as the only possible explanation - all evidence is contorted to fit into this increasingly contrived explanation. Object level an…

This is so true, if anyone posts any positive aspect of AI, those comments are downvoted to abyss. As a software developer I understand how others sees AI as a threat to their job safety and saying AI is evil and must be stopped is so selfish when AI truly can lift millions out of abject poverty in the future.

What’s so funny is that same people are the ones that identify themselves as liberals as long as they can keep their privileged, highly paid jobs.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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What a coincidence, Anthropic getting handicapped so xAI can try to catch up

XAI rents out compute to anthropic. I feel like Sam Altman is behind this that little rat.

Considering he cornered future production of DRAM, I believe it!

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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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> But this government [...] I'm hearing a lot of this kind of thing. "Oh if only it was a different government". I'm sorry, but when you cry out for government involvement, it's not always going to be coming from the government you personally wanted. This is the whole problem with government involvement! I don't think that message is getting through, but it's the real lesson that should be learned here.

I’m pretty certain that most of my issues are with a specific kind of government, not with government in general. Government is fine if it’s done by people that aren’t in it only for themselves. Actually it is often still fine if it’s done by people only in it for themselves. It’s just that the people in it right now will burn the world down to enrich themselves.

> "Government is fine if it’s done by people that aren’t in it only for themselves."

Academic studies consistently show that people attracted to a career in politics (regardless of affiliation) score higher on "Dark Triad" personality traits (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy).

And even for the non-sociopaths, the problem with humans is instinctively we ARE only in it for ourselves and our family. Anyone claiming otherwise, ironically, is probably attempting to signal virtue for...personal gain...yet again.

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