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There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by SgtBastard »

Iolaum wrote: post #7
istvan0 wrote: post #4

> So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. They are not wrong, it feels like that Game of Thrones season where someone thought it would be a great idea to let the fanatics re-arm. > The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the ava…

> The world is a bit bigger than US and China With respect to AI capabilities is it really? I don't see anyone else producing frontier closed source LLM's or frontier open source LLM's outside of US and China.

Mistral in the EU, for one.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by Izkata »

Tenoke wrote: post #10
slopinthebag wrote: post #6

Meanwhile the world keeps spinning and most people don't even know what Anthropic is, much less anything about Fable. If AI lived up to a tenth of the promises the American labs produce, the world would be drastically different today. It's not. I'm doubtful of future impact based on that. I'm happy we can utilise current OSS models to the extent we can now. They'll improve. The world will continue as usual. And hopef…

Did you think 5 years into the invention of electricity the world already was vastly different? The internet? Would you have written them off because random people didn't know much about them at that point - which isnt even true as chatgpt has been ~ the 5th most popular site in the world for a couple of years now?

> which isnt even true as chatgpt has been ~ the 5th most popular site in the world for a couple of years now?

That part is kind of their point - it doesn't have the distribution issues your other examples have.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by conception »

slopinthebag wrote: post #6

Meanwhile the world keeps spinning and most people don't even know what Anthropic is, much less anything about Fable. If AI lived up to a tenth of the promises the American labs produce, the world would be drastically different today. It's not. I'm doubtful of future impact based on that. I'm happy we can utilise current OSS models to the extent we can now. They'll improve. The world will continue as usual. And hopef…

Ask a recent college grad if the world is drastically different today then when they started college.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by emodendroket »

> As a brief aside, I am once again extremely disappointed in the myriad of Silicon Valley people who angrily argued that a Democratic led government would ‘pick winners and losers in the AI race’ are now completely silent or defending the actions of this admin. I cannot help but feel that that previous posturing was just a machiavellian play for power, which has just been the worst feeling in the world.

I mean, yeah. But did it take this long for that to be apparent to you?

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by isoprophlex »

ookblah wrote: post #16

lol if this is an attempt by the admin like the DoD thing to "knock them down a peg" it actually has the opposite effect for me, showing that anthropic is that far ahead you have to resort to dirty tricks.

OTOH, maybe Dario is colluding with some people the US government to drum up some PR before the IPO? "OoOoo these models are so scarily good, export controls were forced onto them"

So much smoke, mirrors and SV techbro bullshit going around that it has become impossible to figure out what's what.

Re: There is a shadow hanging over this Fable thing

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Post by bob778 »

Iolaum wrote: post #7
istvan0 wrote: post #4

> So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. They are not wrong, it feels like that Game of Thrones season where someone thought it would be a great idea to let the fanatics re-arm. > The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the ava…

> The world is a bit bigger than US and China With respect to AI capabilities is it really? I don't see anyone else producing frontier closed source LLM's or frontier open source LLM's outside of US and China.

Mistral (French) for one but several governments have sponsored projects too
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