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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by tayo42 »

mil22 wrote: post #535

How totally absurd. Why do people still want to build businesses in the US or in Silicon Valley? California taxes are already punishingly high, especially after recent rate increases and the 2017 cap on SALT deductions. And now we have a Machiavellian, authoritarian, fascist, tech-illiterate administration interfering with the operation of free markets. I'm speaking rhetorically, of course. I know Silicon Valley stil…

What's the alternative to the us and silicon Valley? Companies were trying to make Austin happen and that was a failure. Now one talks about that anymore.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by morkalork »

shibaprasadb wrote: post #546
ivraatiems wrote: post #112

When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen. Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really li…

Yeah. Did they want this all along? This will just create more hype, and may push towards significant usage once and when it is available.

But when is now if it becomes available. Oops!

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

mvkel wrote: post #261

This is marketing. 1. Release fable, highly nerfed and limited 2. See the compute capacity limiter pegged day after day 3. Lobby to the government, claiming ai is super unsafe and not aligned and they must do something 4. Government "forces" anth to turn off 5. Anth takes the pressure off of compute capacity, and gets to blame it on the govt Like you're telling me fable is somehow an order of magnitude better than GP…

Yes, it's marketing straight out of the Big Tobacco playbook. Convince everyone your product is dangerous, get government to ban it, and then... uh... pivot into adjacent market segments?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by tw1984 »

WarmWash wrote: post #501

This is crushing precedent for Europe. Maybe they'll have access to CCP models, but China will likely soon do them same. Maybe they will allow access but you must use it on their servers (i.e. share everything you do with the CCP). Perhaps Mistral can pull something out, but how far ahead will the US and China be by then?

unless they managed to hire enough smart Chinese CS PhDs living in Europe.

you do understand that the whole thing is Chinese in China vs Chinese in America?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by yurish »

libraryofbabel wrote: post #450

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

AI companies business model depends on wide adoption. How will they survive if government closes access to their models?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by mctaylor »

US government: "Bad Anthropic! Not patriotic enough. AI is only for American "citizens" (who we are actively trying to reduce/restrict to people we like)."

Anthropic: "Oh... American access only, you say? I'm sorry, we can't promise that (because VPNs and US-local cloud hosting and all that), so we need to turn it off completely."

...probably.

If so, I wonder what turn the political shenanigans will take next?

Based on the actions of the current administration and the short-sighted tech oligarchs who have been consistently pushing towards neo-fascism/neo-feudalism, probably one that further degrades trust all around and gives China even more of a leg up.

Let's see!

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