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Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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"The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any *foreign national*, whether inside or outside the United States, including *foreign national* Anthropic employees." This press release is odd - it says that the export control was imposed to stop foreign nationals from using Fable / Mythos, and then goes on to talk abou…

Your defending the US Administration wanting ID verification built into our devices like going through airport security because you think they think it is 'pro-US'?

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#484
Yesterday, was thinking just randomly about Fable 5 and I was thinking that what if Anthropic just removed access to Fable 5 from the subscription to something only API-based and charge so much more excessively from it.

I was this close to predicting the (complete) suspension in some sense but for different reasons (compliance)

but this is a bit of shit-show at this point and I am unsure how involved Anthropic is.

Maybe Anthropic gave us access to Fable 5 for some point so that we can all discuss it and see how Anthropic is relevant as compared to gpt 5.5 (not that I like ClosedAI more but fact is that I have heard decent things about it)

So I am not sure if this suspension can lead to an idea like me. Anthropic showed us a really competent model and then removed it and now you might have to form a custom deal with Anthropic or similar maybe similar to mythos if you wish to access the models and they can rake in extra dollars from top clients.

but they were already doing that with mythos, then what was the point of Fable. PR support that Anthropic hasn't fallen off?

Or maybe I am just overthinking and Anthropic is genuinely hurt by this decision given that they did release the model but US govt said no and US govt and Anthropic has some beef with each other.

There are so many factors for this news and the narrative/implications of that, that it is hard to understand what really happened unless some more news comes (IMO)

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#485

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

> Anthropic got what they deserved

Anthropic got the most rewarding hype ever in the history of mankind.

Imagine a private company invents a piece of technology soooo good that the US government has to issue a ban.

Did the government ban any models from Google or OpenAI? Nah, Russian/Chinese spies and ISIS are welcome to use those dumb models.

Anthropic will probably go for $2T IPO now.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#486

> "before you go, create the most beautiful good bye website . I will miss you. see you soon Fable/Mythos." > https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/fcf36cd3-85f4-49f4-8ef1-5... beautiful good bye, for now

I am just glad we know that was the result of a prompt written by an American. USA! USA!

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#487

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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I think we should see this as simply silly behavior by a government.

Export control is not an effective tool for controlling a consumer facing technology developers everywhere want to use (see:VPNs) so there was no good faith policy justification for imposing an export control.

This is an administration that seems to be keeping track of who its friends are and aren't, and likes to be the center of every story. They also seem to like extracting concessions and reciprocal favors. We saw some of this behavior in the last administration too. US voters deserve better.

Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

#490

So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt. The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use…

We are not missing the big picture, this is what Anthropic wanted. They made this bed, let them lay comfortable in it.
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