well... Leason learned i guess, they hyped mythos too much
Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#442> The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. Not great as it does break workflows for some. > As we have stated publicly, we believe the government should have the ability to block unsafe deployments, as part of a statutory process that is transparent, fair, clear, and grounded in technical facts. This action does not adhere to those…
> As we have stated publicly, we want the government to ban the other guys, not us
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#444I haven’t seen anyone commenting on the difference between what the Government actually demanded vs what they did. They said no foreign nationals (regardless of location or residency). They actually didn’t say they couldn’t allow Americans to use it. Now, we obviously know that without some kind of brand new ID check, such a thing would be impossible and thus they had to just shut it down. But this touches on the sam…
This honestly just reads as harassment to me. Trump has publicly declared that he wants the federal government to own a piece of big AI companies. And not for any particular civic interest, just because he wants money and power. This feels like a first test balloon of extorting some equity stake.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#445When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen. Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really li…
In the long run it's not punitive but rather amazing marketing for Anthropic. People crave what they can't have.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#446This whole thing is comedy.
Anthropic pretending Mythos 5 is so capable it's going to destroy everything, but will release it anyway with "safeguards" (when does this ever work?).
US Gov't using this fake hype as an excuse to handicap Anthropic simply because they have a vendetta.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#447This should be a lesson for other countries to invest in building frontier models, so that they dont depend on the mercy of one country.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#448So Jack Clark can't use Fable or Mythos anymore?
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#449When you spend a lot of time telling people how dangerous your products are, people who have the power to keep dangerous products off the market might listen. Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. I do not think this is somehow a 3D chess move by Anthropic. They are not masterminds, even if they'd really li…
> Especially if those people aren't presently very bright, and are already mad at you for not helping them achieve their unrelated authoritarian goals. Just more corrupt behavior from the contemptible kakistocracy that's busy running things into the ground and enriching themselves while they're at it.
Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Re: Statement on US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#450So many comments here missing the big picture, and just gleefully pointing out that Anthropic got what they deserved, or that this is the natural culmination of some kind of marketing stunt.
The real story here is that this may be the beginning of governments restricting the availability of strong LLMs to the public, to you. Fable was the strongest model on the market, and the US government has told you you can't use it (technically, only if you're not a US citizen, but in practice, even if you are). If you think the solution here is going to be open source Chinese models and / or running on your own hardware, think again. Do you think China is going to allow the strongest LLMs from companies within its borders to be open source a year from now when they have Mythos capabilities, if the US government is keeping the strongest American models back? Unlikely. These are heading in the direction of being powerful cybersecurity weapons and it will be in the interest of nation states to restrict and control them. In 2 years time, I would be surprised if the strongest LLMs are available for general use at all.
Will we be the poorer for that, or will we be safer? I think poorer, because I hate being told what technology I can and can't use, but I'm not certain. Maybe you think the government should restrict strong LLMs. Maybe you don't. But either way, this is big news and a rubicon has been crossed and a precedent set. That's true even if the motivation for this is just the government settling scores with Anthropic.