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Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by slopinthebag »

andrei_says_ wrote: post #10
bitwize wrote: post #2

Pretty much the same point I made: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48403908 Their apparent inability to get the basics right makes me severely doubt their claims of self-improving AI. The humans at Anthropic wouldn't know improvement if it landed on their lap and started twerking, and AI cannot do a job without strong human intervention into what the goals and guardrails actually are. I'm kind of reminded of whe…

Reading this it occurs to me that this timeline may be moving toward a future where garbage software, garbage information etc. have become the norm for so long that the number of people who can distinguish trash from quality, or signal from noise, has become negligible. A true era of ignorance, looking like an ocean of nonsense in which no one can really navigate as it is ungrounded in reality. Idiocracy presents a n…

Perhaps, but people don't care that much about a bug with Instagram. Once critical infrastructure starts failing people will take notice.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by slopinthebag »

panarky wrote: post #39
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext. The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something. And because you missed it…

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

And saying coding is solved doesn't prove anything either.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

panarky wrote: post #39
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext. The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something. And because you missed it…

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

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Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by triyambakam »

orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

I am definitely hyped on it and have 10-20 Codex and Claude Code terminals open, but I do wonder what you're building and with who that you would say 95% accuracy. I get so frustrated with Codex inventing new ways to do something every time it compacts or start a new session.

"You're right, I shouldn't have done that" Ya think?!

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by triyambakam »

kshri24 wrote: post #34
_doctor_love wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pralaya is not far away. Soon Shiva will begin his dance. I give us until 2036.

Pralaya happens after complete age of Brahma. That would be 100 Brahma years. Or 311.04 trillion human years. We are in the 51st year of Brahma. Kali Yuga lifespan is 432,000 years. Of which we are 4000+ years into it. So that's another 428,000 years of hell on Earth.

Yeah like he said, not far away :D

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

panarky wrote: post #39
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext. The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something. And because you missed it…

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

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Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by ryan_n »

orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

> A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

Hmm people say this all the time in these discussions but idk if I buy that it's really a "user issue". It's really, really not hard to "use" agentic ai. It literally involves instructing an llm to do things in natural language. Anyone who knows how to code and speak a language can do this. As you yourself seem to believe, even people who don't know how to code can do this. I just don't think it's possible that THAT many people are having an issue typing some words to instruct an llm to write some code. Maybe the issue is more the type of software you are working on vs the type of software that other people are working on. I don't know, I just don't think "skill issue" is really a valid argument here...

Edit: for the record, I think what Opus can produce is extremely impressive. But I still am not really close to letting write 100% of code I write. And I think that is true for a lot of people, not just me. It still generates (sometimes obvious) bugs. Until that stops, the statement "coding is solved" is objectively false, which (I think?) is largely the point of the video.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by Jeremy1026 »

orangebread wrote: post #14

I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy. A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

This guy has been against AI from the very onset, and no matter what happens with AI going forward I think he'll always poopoo it.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by ryan_n »

panarky wrote: post #39
Retric wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He spent that much time and you still misunderstood the direct message and missed the subtext. The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they were working on for over a year while saying coding is solved. There’s a great number of other issues with their own software that disprove their premise, but you only need one counter example to disprove something. And because you missed it…

One unresolved bug does not disprove anything.

The point is if "coding is solved" was true, there would not be any unresolved bugs.

Re: I think they are lying to you [video]

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Post by cindyllm »

theendisney wrote: post #40
panarky wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched the video and I wish I could get those 13 minutes of my life back. He could have done it in 13 seconds instead of 13 minutes: "Anthropic is lying about the effectiveness of agentic loops because there's this one screen flicker bug in Claude Code that took a year to fix." Yeah, like when United Airlines claims a plane can fly 300 people 6,000 miles they are lying to you. I can prove they're lying to you beca…

I write little bits of code then test them. If the screen flickers i wouldnt continue until it is solved. If ive missed it and have to hear it from (a) user(s) i would kinda like to fix it imediately. Not always possible but truly annoying things have priority over new things. If i had unlimited developers at my command. All many times as fast as me.... how can i keep the problem? It would take some huge effort to ke…

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