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Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

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Post by warmonger »

Svoka wrote: post #59
RandomGerm4n wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So does that mean my girlfriend is also to blame for the war just because she happened to be born in Russia? She’s against Putin herself, but there’s not much she can do about it because, as a trans woman, she’s persecuted by that shitty state simply for existing. If she protested, they’d kill her. Why should she now be barred from at least pursuing her hobby and submitting patches for software projects?

I understand that your girlfriend is a victim of same regime (and I am sorry for that, genuinely), but she may or may not be a part of it depending on circumstances. Make no mistake - this has nothing to do with nationality or ethnicity, and everything with ones actions. Just answer me this - you say "She’s against Putin". What does it mean? Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Do…

> Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Does she sabotage logistics alongside partisans? Provide intelligence?

Are you doing any of that? No? Than you may be a part of it based on your comment.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#62

Post by tempaccountabcd »

RandomGerm4n wrote: post #50
Svoka wrote: post #37

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So does that mean my girlfriend is also to blame for the war just because she happened to be born in Russia? She’s against Putin herself, but there’s not much she can do about it because, as a trans woman, she’s persecuted by that shitty state simply for existing. If she protested, they’d kill her. Why should she now be barred from at least pursuing her hobby and submitting patches for software projects?

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Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#63

Post by lostmsu »

warmonger wrote: post #61
Svoka wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that your girlfriend is a victim of same regime (and I am sorry for that, genuinely), but she may or may not be a part of it depending on circumstances. Make no mistake - this has nothing to do with nationality or ethnicity, and everything with ones actions. Just answer me this - you say "She’s against Putin". What does it mean? Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Do…

> Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Does she sabotage logistics alongside partisans? Provide intelligence? Are you doing any of that? No? Than you may be a part of it based on your comment.

He isn't paying Russian taxes either.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#64

Post by warmonger »

lostmsu wrote: post #63
warmonger wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Does she sabotage logistics alongside partisans? Provide intelligence? Are you doing any of that? No? Than you may be a part of it based on your comment.

He isn't paying Russian taxes either.

Why are we drawing the line on paying the taxes? Based on what I see the EU is still trading with Russia. So, directly or indirectly, money is being delivered from Europeans to Russia

https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-cou...

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#65

Post by 4gotunameagain »

Svoka wrote: post #60
rurban wrote: post #51

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Russia invaded their neighbors forever, not just since 94. America invades everywhere, Russia only neighbors, that's what you learn in school.

Rollout the whataboutism! russian federation was created in 1991. Since then russia occupies entirety of Ichkeria, parts of Moldova, parts of Georgia, and parts of Ukraine What lang grabs does US got since 91? If you want to go before, russian occupation called 'ussr' and 'russian empire' caused pretty much unparalleled suffering and extinsions of peoples. But also, we are talking about current events. Past brutality…

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Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#66

Post by lostmsu »

warmonger wrote: post #64
lostmsu wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He isn't paying Russian taxes either.

Why are we drawing the line on paying the taxes? Based on what I see the EU is still trading with Russia. So, directly or indirectly, money is being delivered from Europeans to Russia https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-cou...

I would say that EU is in the same boat, but not to the same degree. They are collaborators. The fact that they are effectively funding both sides makes it even worse.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#67

Post by Svoka »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #65
Svoka wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rollout the whataboutism! russian federation was created in 1991. Since then russia occupies entirety of Ichkeria, parts of Moldova, parts of Georgia, and parts of Ukraine What lang grabs does US got since 91? If you want to go before, russian occupation called 'ussr' and 'russian empire' caused pretty much unparalleled suffering and extinsions of peoples. But also, we are talking about current events. Past brutality…

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Dumbest take ever. Before russian fascists invaded only military base Ukraine hosted was russian.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#68

Post by Svoka »

warmonger wrote: post #61
Svoka wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that your girlfriend is a victim of same regime (and I am sorry for that, genuinely), but she may or may not be a part of it depending on circumstances. Make no mistake - this has nothing to do with nationality or ethnicity, and everything with ones actions. Just answer me this - you say "She’s against Putin". What does it mean? Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Do…

> Does she fight with other russian volunteers for Armed Forces of Ukraine? Does she sabotage logistics alongside partisans? Provide intelligence? Are you doing any of that? No? Than you may be a part of it based on your comment.

I am not russian subject. My army isn't raping their way through foreign country like russian does.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#69

Post by 4gotunameagain »

Svoka wrote: post #67
4gotunameagain wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Dumbest take ever. Before russian fascists invaded only military base Ukraine hosted was russian.

A simple search supports my argument:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations...

Also go back and listen to old speeches and interviews by Putin and Lavrov. They have been crystal clear about that fact, saying it openly that they will even invade if NATO tries to get too close.

I empathise with the Ukrainian people who are the ones that have to suffer from these power games, but I place a lot of blame to NATO.

Re: Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

#70

Post by mopsi »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #69
Svoka wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dumbest take ever. Before russian fascists invaded only military base Ukraine hosted was russian.

A simple search supports my argument: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations... Also go back and listen to old speeches and interviews by Putin and Lavrov. They have been crystal clear about that fact, saying it openly that they will even invade if NATO tries to get too close. I empathise with the Ukrainian people who are the ones that have to suffer from these power games, but I place a lot of…

Timeline from the article you linked does not support your argument:

  During the 2010 presidential election campaign, Party of Regions leader and candidate Viktor Yanukovych stated that the current level of Ukraine's cooperation with NATO was sufficient and that the question of the country's accession to the alliance was therefore not urgent. On 14 February 2010, Yanukovych said that Ukraine's relations with NATO were currently "well-defined", and that there was "no question of Ukraine joining NATO". 

  In February 2014, during Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, president Yanukovych fled the capital despite signing an agreement with the opposition. Parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from his post and schedule new elections, while an interim government was set up. 

  Ukraine's interim Yatsenyuk government took office on 26 February. The new government said that it did not intend to make Ukraine a member of NATO.

  In late February and early March 2014, Russian soldiers without insignia occupied Crimea.
As to Putin and Lavrov, they didn't even admit the invasion after the fact, which is why Russian soldiers were running around without insignia for the first few years of the war.
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