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"Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by perrygeo »

xp84 wrote: post #45

The ending is a really powerful point. Most people apparently agree on two things: 1. AI is a great boon for all tasks and specialties we don’t have the skills to do ourselves. Understandable, since (A) we’re ill equipped to see the flaws in its output because it isn’t our area of expertise, and (B) it often can unlock great gains because if we trust it, we then don’t have to pay and wait for humans to do that thing.…

At what point does this become an issue for data quality and global epistemology?

It seems inevitable that we ask for more AI assistance on topics we don't understand. And therefore have the least context to correct. Result: a flood of poor quality information.

In areas we DO understand, we'll either not ask AI at all, or treat its results with a higher degree of skepticism. Result: a lack of high quality information.

Inevitably this means a higher volume of non-expert prompts gets translated into the next generation of internet content. AIs are pumping out more novice-level text and less expert guidance.

The result will be an internet full content written from the perspective of an ignoramus; not addressing any complex issues, staying surface level on every topic. Which will cascade into future models, etc.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by epihelix »

anigbrowl wrote: post #158
olivierestsage wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Em dashes are really good actually and a standard stylistic choice for non-technical writing, particularly outside the US.

They certainly have their place, but are massively overused in contemporary American prose. This might be slight more of an east coast thing, but that's just a subjective impression that I'm not willing to spend time measuring. To me they come off as faddish, with many writers using them where commas and semicolons would have done just as well. I think their popularity stems from teh fact that provide the sense of a…

It's a fad that has been going strong for centuries in published literature, so I'd guess an awful lot of authors world disagree with you.

You can restructureany sentence to use fewer forms of punctuation -- but if you do that, you'll lose nuance. And nuance, in writing, is a very fine thing.

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Post by throw310822 »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #129
AnodicElegy wrote: post #105

Out of curiosity, I pasted an article in French I was reading a few minutes before coming across this thread into ChatGPT and asked for a translation into English. It was certainly passable from a functional perspective, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it to translate an article from a language I don't understand. But it was not professional-quality work. There were a couple instances where the French grammar was mist…

I think the issue is that a lot of professional work is being done when the commissioner would be perfectly fine with non professional work. There will always be a place for artful translation, theres a place for hasty translation as well.

Especially when you get three assignments from 4 to 6 pm, all due for the day after. It's certainly literary translation they're after.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by huflungdung »

xp84 wrote: post #45

The ending is a really powerful point. Most people apparently agree on two things: 1. AI is a great boon for all tasks and specialties we don’t have the skills to do ourselves. Understandable, since (A) we’re ill equipped to see the flaws in its output because it isn’t our area of expertise, and (B) it often can unlock great gains because if we trust it, we then don’t have to pay and wait for humans to do that thing.…

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Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by dotancohen »

Aurornis wrote: post #176
MichaelZuo wrote: post #138

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How did you get over 52,000 karma in under 3 years with no submissions at all? Are you averaging like 2000+ comments a month?

Commenting more than I should, to be honest. I have a few periods during my daily routine where I’m waiting somewhere away from the computer and need a break from email. A lot of my comments have double digit upvotes and some get into the mid hundreds. I try to actually read articles and provide thoughtful comments, which gets upvoted a lot more than the throwaway. > Are you averaging like 2000+ comments a month? 520…

Serious, non-acusatory question. Your writing looks human. Do you use any writing assistants?

Where else, other than HN, do you post?

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by dyauspitr »

This is all bullshit. I speak 4 languages, 3 fluently. Even chatGPT does a stellar job with translation. For most things people want translated- forms, administrative documents etc. I doubt you even need a human in the loop.

That being said, something with essence like a novel definitely still needs to be done by a human.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by sebastiennight »

cwillu wrote: post #205
spudlyo wrote: post #163

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It reminds me when people would stuff their image prompts with things like NO DEFORMED FINGERS.

Instructions unclear, digitized subject into a mass of fingers.

Thanks for reigniting the PTSD of reading about SCP-4051.

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Post by 113 »

hyperpape wrote: post #200
Drupon wrote: post #14

An honest to god article full of em dashes that's not because it was AI but because it was a human using them as a crutch to get around crafting sentences that flow naturally. Almost brings a tear to my eye.

First sentence: > In my Ottawa life, every Tuesday evening, I take two gym classes back to back—boxing and the pompously named “body sculpt,” which makes me discover muscles I didn’t know I had. The em-dash matches how you'd speak out loud. You'd say "I take two classes every Tuesday back to back, boxing and 'body sculpt'. Weird name." (Parts of that sentence did flow oddly, but not because of the em-dash). Grammaria…

Good writing shouldn't just be how you talk out loud.

Re: "Don't You Just Upload It to ChatGPT?"

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Post by throw-the-towel »

sebastiennight wrote: post #227
cwillu wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instructions unclear, digitized subject into a mass of fingers.

Thanks for reigniting the PTSD of reading about SCP-4051.

You mean the 4051 from There's No Antimemetics Division and not the mainline 4051, right?
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