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What the fuck happened to nerds

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Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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To be terse but generalizing a bit, technologists used to want to solve problems and make things easier. At some point, under the influence of MBAs it became how do we make loads of money leveraging technology’s network effects?

Fucking MBAs

Most of the leaders of big tech are (former) engineers

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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People are pointing to money, which yes absolutely is a factor. But what's also important to recognize is that tech has gone mainstream with smart phones, and what people do with that tech is basically 'TV'. Thus society-wide harm is now possible and, unfortunately, desired because that's also what ends up making money.

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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It's a shift in mindset and feels a bit "man yells at clouds". I think this really underestimates how jarring Jobs and his peers were to the older generation of techies who themselves were jarring to the even older ones (eg. remember all the hate Jobs and Gates would receive from Stallman types?). I also think OP fails to understand how much more competitive tech culture is now. Visit and talk with undergrads at a to…

I don't think you read the article, it's not about competition.

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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The nerds you are looking for are still here. We just got pushed out of the leadership of the tech industry by evil people who are not nerds.

The reason you can’t see us anymore is because you don’t know how to look. Money and the major social platforms will never direct your eyes towards us. You must look at the independent spaces that are hiding in plain sight.

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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I have an imperfect "canary in the coalmine" test for whether/where the principled/idealist nerds have the power vs the mercenary/cynical nerds have the power: Advertisers vs Ad Blockers - as long as the Ad Blockers are blocking the vast majority of junk, I feel like team principles is winning. Like they have more nerd power to outsmart the lesser nerds working on team mercenary. But there are places like Facebook wh…

There are currently multiple trivial ways for a layman to block all YouTube ads.

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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It's a shift in mindset and feels a bit "man yells at clouds". I think this really underestimates how jarring Jobs and his peers were to the older generation of techies who themselves were jarring to the even older ones (eg. remember all the hate Jobs and Gates would receive from Stallman types?). I also think OP fails to understand how much more competitive tech culture is now. Visit and talk with undergrads at a to…

I don't think you read the article, it's not about competition.

I read the article, but the attributes which OP views as negative are just the general traits of hypercompetitive people.

The only way to win is by hook or by crook - that is what you learn in hypercompetitive environments.

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> Yours is the kind of attitude that has ruined the industry

If you can't compete you will be made redundant.

Honestly, in some aspects that is what I appreciate about the Chinese mindset - much more competitive.

Re: What the fuck happened to nerds

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I have an imperfect "canary in the coalmine" test for whether/where the principled/idealist nerds have the power vs the mercenary/cynical nerds have the power: Advertisers vs Ad Blockers - as long as the Ad Blockers are blocking the vast majority of junk, I feel like team principles is winning. Like they have more nerd power to outsmart the lesser nerds working on team mercenary. But there are places like Facebook wh…

I would happily, delightedly, see the entire internet disappear in a puff of smoke, to remove ads from the world. Honestly, I'd be happy to see everything on the internet except the wikipedia vanish regardless, at this point.

Much of the mundane world - tv, bus stops, and so on seems to have ads. While in my nerd domain, my computer, I don't see ads at all. So it would seem that open source software is letting me live without ads on the internet, from home.

I was even annoyed at the ads in a paper newspaper I was leafing through, I'm not just used to them and I think some of them were a bit dishonest and scummy.

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