A Call to Action: Stop the FCC's KYC Regime

Post by maerF0x0 » Fri, Jun 12, 2026, 4:32 PM UTC

3RTB297 wrote: post #65

rastrojero2000 wrote: post #43

Any particular reason yall can't just argue in court that by creating opportunities for your PII to be stolen your governments (state or federal or both) are actively harming you economically? Sure, not much money to be had by fighting that fight but basically any PAC should have the means to do this and by claiming money is at stake and not people's actual safety you do have a better chance at this not being dismiss…

Unless you've had fraud committed against you, that's a hard sell. What dollar figure do you use as the basis? Are you suing for years of credit monitoring? Because that's typically the solution for people who are the victims of PII leaks. One could argue that it's a failure of law enforcement or telcos or regulators to do enough to prevent fraud and maaaaybe bring a class action or something, but that's a massive st…

Post by Rendello » Fri, Jun 12, 2026, 4:34 PM UTC

smallmancontrov wrote: post #7

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #6

We really just need telcos to stop allowing caller id spoofing. Doesn’t even need your name, but with a real number we could actually report these scams. You can still allow people to hide it, but then by default every non-business phone should block calls with hidden numbers.

What ever happened to SHAKEN/STIR? I thought this was supposed to happen 5 years ago. Did they just chicken out on the prospect of actually shutting down telcos sending spam volume? I still get loads of spam phone calls, so clearly something went wrong (or slow enough to be indistinguishable from wrong).

Post by singpolyma3 » Fri, Jun 12, 2026, 4:36 PM UTC

Zak wrote: post #86

singpolyma3 wrote: post #77

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Just because a call is a spam call doesn't mean it is spoofed. STIR/SHAKEN ends spoofing but anyone can ultimately buy a phone and make calls that are spammy.

Sure, but with phone numbers that can't be spoofed, telcos can terminate service, and filtering technologies can block calls. Spam gets expensive if you have to buy new service every five calls.

Post by singpolyma3 » Fri, Jun 12, 2026, 4:37 PM UTC

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #103

singpolyma3 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because a call is a spam call doesn't mean it is spoofed. STIR/SHAKEN ends spoofing but anyone can ultimately buy a phone and make calls that are spammy.

Spoofing isn’t ended at all Almost every spam call has that I get, is spoofed. Someone here explained it, once. I think the spoofed calls use a legacy transport tech that can’t be forced to validate.

Post by frollogaston » Fri, Jun 12, 2026, 4:37 PM UTC

logicchains wrote: post #109

elevation wrote: post #60

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> the most blatant attempts at subverting due process This seems so clear to me; KYC is an end run around the constitution. But how do we stop it? If we legislate "no KYC" then what is my recourse when an imposter empties my accounts? You'd want it to be at least allowed. But if we allow industry to require KYC "we will only deposit your pay to a verified bank account" then you may end up with de facto KYC if not de…

>But how do we stop it? Use Monero as much as possible. If enough people adopted it, there's absolutely nothing they could do to stop it short of turning off the internet entirely. Even China, with the strictest internet controls in the world, hasn't managed to stop people paying for banned goods and services in crypto there.