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Re: The Future of Email

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Post by marysol5 »

latexr wrote: post #79
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like per recipient emails, but I worried how I would know I authorized that sender to send to lonely chicken. The original site could have been compromised. That's why I bought my email domain and use @hnrobert42.com. It helps to use a password manager. I get a lot of convincing emails to linkedin@hnrobert42.com. As well as zynga, wework, etc.

> That's why I bought my email domain and use @hnrobert42.com. It helps to use a password manager. Whenever there’s this discussion on HN, someone usually points out that can sometimes be a bother, especially when giving out the email in person, because people don’t really understand how email addresses works and ask “how did you get that email” or think you’re impersonating the service, or something similar. I guess…

The weird looks when I tell a shop my e-mail is "name plus sign shopname AT mydomain dot com"

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by br0ceph »

seems like pgp inside emails would solve alot of the issues around auth and confidentiality i think email is fine the way it is i dont need any more solutions that make it harder to host your own servers email is meant to be self hosted. i feel like commercial email services have their usecases but we should avoid having service providers playing with standards, as their motives might be self serving. we should keep decentralized internet tech as decentralized as possible, with a caution against blocking random senders, as this leads to monopolies blocking their competition and demanding compliance to their agendas.

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by bensyverson »

timwis wrote: post #113

I read this article and was surprised when I reached the end because the whole thing felt like it was setting the stage for some announcement or new thing. But nothing came..? Forgive me if I'm being thick but what was the takeaway?

The future of email is… the present of email!

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by marysol5 »

jasode wrote: post #33
LoganDark wrote: post #12

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I love hearing that I received a "secure message", with no further detail. Straight to trash -- I don't read "secure messages". My inbox is probably more secure.

The gp isn't talking about spam using "secure message" as bait to open unwanted email. Instead, legitimate companies like banks, healthcare, etc tell users to click on a url link to their "Secure Message Center" to read or submit some critical information. It's often the only way to get the info the users need. E.g. if I open a payment dispute with the bank, the workflow they use is the Secure Message area. I can't j…

At least in part, because of your workflow, is that it's a ticketing system. Much easier to manage than having people reply to e-mails (even when you specifically state "REPLY ABOVE THIS LINE!" they are absolute cretins.)

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by bloggie »

wycy wrote: post #73
danielhep wrote: post #21

I love fastmail, I switched from Proton a couple years ago after deciding the trade offs to have encrypted email were not worth it, since even if I fully trust Proton, most emails come from or go to AWS, Outlook, or Gmail anyway. I have been extremely happy with the service. Fairly priced, very fast even with a huge inbox, and they don’t add unnecessary features or bloat. I thought I would use my OS’s mail apps but t…

What were the tradeoffs with Proton?

When I cancelled Proton the subscription ended immediately instead of running out the clock on the time I had paid for. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by ImJamal »

Diti wrote: post #112
raffael_de wrote: post #76

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I'm using Fastmail for more than 9 years. Especially since they added offline support to their app, there's nothing left why I would even remotely consider leaving them.

What about the fact it’s a US-based product so you’re under forced Five Eyes data collection?

Fastmail is not a US product, it is Australian. Australia is part of 5 Eyes though.

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by danielhep »

Diti wrote: post #112
raffael_de wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using Fastmail for more than 9 years. Especially since they added offline support to their app, there's nothing left why I would even remotely consider leaving them.

What about the fact it’s a US-based product so you’re under forced Five Eyes data collection?

Almost every email is going to or coming from US servers anyway. Better to treat email as insecure and use something else for more secure communication.

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by NewCzech »

In 1993, a friend of mine was working at Apple. I wanted to send him a funny message with a spoofed sender. I just typed "telnet apple.com 25" and then typed in the required commands. Apple.com accepted it and delivered it to my friend with a fake sender.

Those were the days, lol!

Re: The Future of Email

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Post by marysol5 »

jcranmer wrote: post #128
fiskeben wrote: post #68

It's insane that in 2026 signing and encryption of emails still isn't the norm, but as long as the business model of the largest email vendors rely on us not having it, I guess we never will.

In 2026, pushing for encryption of emails is a sign that you care more about box-checking requirements rather than actual security practices. Encrypted email sounds good--it's encrypted, how can that be bad?--but when you actually work through various threats and see what encrypted email protects against, it's really not much compared to the status quo, and encrypted email also turns out to lose a lot of features. Ke…

>Or spam processing--no one's come up with a workable solution here, especially given the vast amount of spam that never hits an email folder

The origins of "Bitcoin" was actually a PoW system to send e-mail to a server!

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