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MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Maybe these things should be utilities that can be swapped out at will and shouldn’t even be privately owned at all? Heresy, I know!

Having a five-year plan dictating which publicly owned b2b SaaS AI service you will be provisioned sure sounds like a dream of mine. I wonder what could go wrong.

Open source is as opposite as state ownership as it is to private ownership.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

Because there is literally nothing special about coding hardnesses. The models are doing all the lifting. It just user experience that separates them. A coding hardness with just bash outperforms Codex, Claude Code, OpenCode, Pi ect. The added features are just user experience features.

Try Kimi in Kimi CLI and Claude Code and try saying that again. Kimi quickly collapses into tool calling loops without measures in their CLI but not in Claude Code and is largely useless for any long running tasks in harnesses not taking this into account.

With those measures (which are actually quite interesting) it can at times perform at Sonnet level.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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post #150

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Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

Cloud providers are commodity, and egress pricing is partially cost following because they have to pay peering to their interconnect points for WAN. Internal networks are not charged within the account because the economics of the VPC overlay are optimized for that use, but inter account and VPC and other boundaries carry cost - especially interconnection between accounts because the way VPC treats virtualization req…

At least AWS egress pricing is a very high multiple of market rate.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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The reason I have a dog harness is to distributes weight so I don't choke her when she goes at the other dog that she doesn't like. I'm actually puzzling over kids kamikazeing into cars

It's actually only a problem if it's the other way around, isn't it? If kids run into a car, they will most probably just bounce and continue, perhaps inflicting some minor damage. But if a car mows down a kid, that could well be a fatal injury. Leashes for all the cars! ;)

A kid running into the side of a car that’s moving over a certain speed will be lucky to break only a few bones.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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I'm pretty sure most of the comments in this thread are AI bots propping up this product?

I tried the free model and it's nowhere near Sonnet 4.6 in terms of capabilities. The fact that token speed will randomly get stuck at 0/s makes sense given it's a free service, but the way it performs is more reminiscent of AI from 2025.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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What?

China is giving away AI for free so it’s harder to make money. The same strategy they did with solar panels. Sell them at a loss long enough until the manufacturers go out of business and you’re the only one surviving. Then flip to extract monopoly profits

What does it sound so familiar with some US business models? I mean all the big tech does exactly that plus Uber (if you call it a tech company)

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.

The familiar Chinese recipe for success: Always copy and imitate first, even if it is inferior, always make it cheaper or even free so that the original innovator will be burdened by brutal price competition and much bigger R&D costs and cannot keep up in the long run. Then the copycat will win in the endgame.

There are very rarely original ideas or original products. It’s more about money put into that idea and the marketing. You could say that Apple copies and imitates just like the chinese. After all they wait for the others to pour money into the ideas and they just deliver a polished experience on top of the hard work others did. Yet people don’t accuse them of being imitators.I think people are mad at the Chinese because they do it for cheap and at an industrial scale on so many products/industries(i.e even food). To me they are a force for good competition.
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