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Ah, yes. Sure. Proof?
the danish were one of the strongest Chat Control promovers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control
So, completely different country
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, yes. Sure. Proof?
the danish were one of the strongest Chat Control promovers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control
Dutch and Danish are two different nationalities. To be fair they both begin with a D and end with a H so I understand the confusion.
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Because Trump has 2.5 years left and they may be hoping a Democrat wins
Trump was elected . Twice. It was not a fluke, not a once in a lifetime event, he's a symptom of wider processes happening in the US. The world has changed and the old order is not coming back
Trump is one thing but the overall dynamic of similar politicians gaining footholds across the world is what worries me. If everyone is X nation first in the same way, you lose the ability to negotiate with compromises, people want to start expanding their borders and that just escalates into war.
We're already seeing that in a few cases but it just stands to get worse if this carries on.
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It's mind blowing that government bureaucrats would be permitted to use commercial providers for official business at all. The provider being foreign is merely the cherry on top. I was going to ask why something like mail.gov.nl doesn't exist but it turns out [0] (edit: wikipedia is full of lies) that they don't have a reserved second level domain for official government services to use? Is this really one of the cou…
That's the most common approach globally. Like most countries, the Dutch Government use .gov.nl.
Ah. Just a blatant inaccuracy on wikipedia I take it. That does make a bit more sense.
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#35The EU should fine such intentional violations with a billion euros per violation. That would stop this immediately and force cloud providers to split off their European side into separate companies that don't fall under US law.
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#36US companies cannot comply with the GDPR because of the CLOUD Act. The two frameworks are fundamentally in conflict with each other and it seems to me that everybody in the EU knows about it, yet this is somehow swept under the carpet and ignored even by government authorities. I've always wondered why this is so and how these kind of dependencies could be allowed in the first place. It's even worse for AI use than it is for productivity suits and email.
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Ah, yes. Sure. Proof?
the danish were one of the strongest Chat Control promovers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control
You mean these specific Danish EU civil servants were the ones pushing chat control? Or are we actually talking about completely different people? Not every European is the same person.
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#38The EU should fine such intentional violations with a billion euros per violation. That would stop this immediately and force cloud providers to split off their European side into separate companies that don't fall under US law.
The EU is trying relentlessly to read our IMs though.
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That's the most common approach globally. Like most countries, the Dutch Government use .gov.nl.
Ah. Just a blatant inaccuracy on wikipedia I take it. That does make a bit more sense.
Yep. gov.nl is in the PSL[1] and there are plenty of used subdomains (e.g. https://business.gov.nl/)
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's mind blowing that government bureaucrats would be permitted to use commercial providers for official business at all. The provider being foreign is merely the cherry on top. I was going to ask why something like mail.gov.nl doesn't exist but it turns out [0] (edit: wikipedia is full of lies) that they don't have a reserved second level domain for official government services to use? Is this really one of the cou…
That's the most common approach globally. Like most countries, the Dutch Government use .gov.nl.
It exists, but the vast majority of government services dont use it (i.e. taxes are just done through belastingdienst.nl).