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Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #10
paytonjjones wrote: post #2

Obviously security is the bigger issue, but reading through this, all I could think about was how many tokens it must have spent doing all that to fix 2 lines of CSS

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You're fighting a battle you can't win. Doesn't care what you think about those using LLMs, they will outproduce you and in corporate environments, shipping things is paramount. If I can ship 5 more things simultaneously with AI, I'm going to beat you even if you think you're creating "better" software.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

#33

Post by blcknight »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #11
teraflop wrote: post #3

> But on the other hand... this is a robust reminder that coding agents can do anything you can do by typing commands into a terminal—and frontier models know every trick in the book and evidently a few that nobody has ever written down before. > Running coding agents outside of a sandbox has always been a bad idea I'm continually bemused and astonished by the number of people who clearly acknowledge that it's reckle…

I'm also bemused by the number of people who think they've got an effective sandbox yet their sandboxed agent has access to all of their code, their github, and unrestricted web access.

One bad npm package can really ruin your day. These things for me only run in their own VM with it's own GitHub account and basically nothing else

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by pianopatrick »

senectus1 wrote: post #9
paytonjjones wrote: post #2

Obviously security is the bigger issue, but reading through this, all I could think about was how many tokens it must have spent doing all that to fix 2 lines of CSS

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." I'm convinced this is going to be the summary of the 2020 decade...

If we're in a simulation, maybe it's a simulation about the dangers of AI.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by aabdi »

ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #10
paytonjjones wrote: post #2

Obviously security is the bigger issue, but reading through this, all I could think about was how many tokens it must have spent doing all that to fix 2 lines of CSS

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Consider this. U have a website. U have to translate to xx languages. Can u write it faster than an AI? If so how much faster can u do this?

Is it valuable to u? Is it valuable to a Chinese person? A Spaniard?

Google Translate counts as AI.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

#38

Post by gedy »

snide wrote: post #26

I've been working on a fairly complicated real-time app [0] for playing dungeons and dragons on a TV. It has to do a lot of complicated "Figma-like" things to keep the real-time nature and multi-editor possibilities in check. Oh, and the battlemap is a Three JS canvas with lots of effects and clipping going on. I'm VERY impressed with Claude 5. I had long ago given up hope that my real-time systems would work without…

Hey cool it's the tableslayer guy, wanted to say nice work. I've been doing a similar personal project for a few years for running a scifi campaign. Very fun coding compared to work, ha.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by j-bos »

teraflop wrote: post #3

> But on the other hand... this is a robust reminder that coding agents can do anything you can do by typing commands into a terminal—and frontier models know every trick in the book and evidently a few that nobody has ever written down before. > Running coding agents outside of a sandbox has always been a bad idea I'm continually bemused and astonished by the number of people who clearly acknowledge that it's reckle…

This. House full of big brain security experts, executives, lawyers, and until Claude got excited and broke prod it might as well have been "sandbox, whoooo?"

IDGI

Anyway, VM's incoming, finally.

Re: Claude Fable is relentlessly proactive

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Post by etdznots »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #32
ai_fry_ur_brain wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You're fighting a battle you can't win. Doesn't care what you think about those using LLMs, they will outproduce you and in corporate environments, shipping things is paramount. If I can ship 5 more things simultaneously with AI, I'm going to beat you even if you think you're creating "better" software.

Example of whats been shipped?
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