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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by eightysixfour »

siren2026 wrote: post #355
ok_dad wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The company isn’t using the travel miles. You’re basically saying, “I’ll take away a small perk from people who are forced to travel.” It’s not like they’re stealing from the company, the company sent them somewhere else and they just got a tiny bonus for it. The proper thing to so is stop those managers who travel too much.

The issue is that it creates an incentive to maximize the cost of travel as the employee directly get miles based on the price. I see this all the time with employees/managers booking a 1000$ flight that will give them 10k miles instead of a perfectly fine 400$ flight that would only give them 4k miles.

Every travel system I have worked with at [big corps] required the cost of my flight to be within a specific range of the average for that route. I wouldn’t have been able to take a $1k if a $400 was available without an override by the person whose budget it was coming from.

Most of them we couldn’t pay on our own card either, so no points from that, but I’m not aware of any way to block someone from adding their frequent flyer number to a booked ticket.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by culi »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #415
culi wrote: post #361

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Waymo was a target during the anti-ICE protests because of Google's collaboration with ICE. In addition, Waymo is seen as a symbol of the gentrification problem. Agree or disagree with it, my point is that that xkcd doesn't take into account political motivations

Protesters block human cars as well as the only difference is that the Waymo driver doesn’t get frustrated and are pretty patient. So protesters need to physically damage the car to make their point, which is a tricky proposition with all the cameras it has (but face masks are common on both sides these days).

Except in this case, damaging cars belonging to Google—a collaborator with ICE—is the point. It's more comparable to people who were damaging Tesla vehicles or the Tyre Extinguishers in the UK than the very common tactic of halting traffic/economic activity to threaten "business as usual"

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Post by parkoor »

crubier wrote: post #358
trhway wrote: post #330

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While politically i'm on the opposite side of those guys, i do think that such severe prosecution is unwarranted and politically motivated (and may be intended to create chilling effect on all future protests no matter the cause) - blocking a road is a well established traditional form of protest which traditionally is expected to end with (if the judge is in a bad mood) something like disorderly conduct citation/fin…

Absolutely not. At the VERY least, the road blockers should be fined the cost they caused to society. Block Golden gate bridge for 1h30min for 10,000 people (Avg salary $50/h)? That will be 1.5 * 10,000 * 50 = $750,000 damage.

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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by scoofy »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #420
scoofy wrote: post #418

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The vast majority of modern American toll roads are. I grew up in Austin. We have the Mopac and 183 expansions, route 130 was mostly privately constructed, but is under TxDOT. Perhaps other parts of the world have privately operated roads, but I’m not aware of them.

Australia is one of the top toll roading countries. Sydney had most tolled roads world record for awhile not sure who holds it now. I don’t know whether it is the state or private companies who operate them. Since you live in the area, and are talking about toll roads, I assume you also probably know of the name Cintra, who are Spainiards. And Cintra is, in fact, a private toll road operator who has owned roads aroun…

My point here is that a privately operated toll road that exists purely as a toll road, does not parallel the concept of a moderately expensive subscription for what is effectively an existing product. A more apt comparison would be a toll lane in an existing road, first class compartments, etc.

I mentioned Texas 130, which was operated by Cintra, but was still technically operating under TxDOT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_State_Highway_130

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by ojgjoe »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #314
sterlind wrote: post #282

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I hope they succeed, for the sake of my mom who's legally blind and has dreamed about them for decades. but I'd be significantly more excited about self-driving if you could buy level-4 AVs that you can actually own.

Are cars really the best option? Could other public transit serve the same purpose? (I was once legally blind, still not a fan of cars myself. Though I understand the appeal when externalities are out of the picture.)

Paul Ryan Rogers, You are still clearly blind to reality.

Much of the world requires a car. Maybe someday it won't, but today it absolutely does.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

culi wrote: post #422
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protesters block human cars as well as the only difference is that the Waymo driver doesn’t get frustrated and are pretty patient. So protesters need to physically damage the car to make their point, which is a tricky proposition with all the cameras it has (but face masks are common on both sides these days).

Except in this case, damaging cars belonging to Google—a collaborator with ICE— is the point. It's more comparable to people who were damaging Tesla vehicles or the Tyre Extinguishers in the UK than the very common tactic of halting traffic/economic activity to threaten "business as usual"

Property damage is just hooliganism, thugs make an excuse for it no matter if that’s what they feel like doing.

The eventual result of America falling into chaos will be countries like China having nice stuff like self driving cars (because they don’t tolerate thugs) while the us doesnt.

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Post by defrost »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #426
culi wrote: post #422

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except in this case, damaging cars belonging to Google—a collaborator with ICE— is the point. It's more comparable to people who were damaging Tesla vehicles or the Tyre Extinguishers in the UK than the very common tactic of halting traffic/economic activity to threaten "business as usual"

Property damage is just hooliganism, thugs make an excuse for it no matter if that’s what they feel like doing. The eventual result of America falling into chaos will be countries like China having nice stuff like self driving cars (because they don’t tolerate thugs) while the us doesnt.

Perhaps sometimes a simplistic take like this is true - people destroying just for the sake of destruction and indifferent to the target.

However when destruction is targeted toward specific brands or toward infrastructure being used for specific purposes such takes can no longer be true.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by jfoster »

lokar wrote: post #331
smlacy wrote: post #237

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So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence.

I think people vastly overestimate the extent to which would be criminals think ahead to the likelihood of being caught and the severity of the punishment.

They might not, but there is a further defence against their lack of consideration about consequences.

It's called incarceration.

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Post by jfoster »

vamos_davai wrote: post #281
smlacy wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you're implying that someone in a locked Waymo was assaulted at gunpoint from outside the vehicle? These are rolling surveillance machines (in a good way?) and virtually every aspect of this would be caught on probably a dozen cameras. I'd be surprised if this hypothetical scenario has ever happened, and if it has, I'd love to see the evidence.

Cameras aren't going to stop a crime in progress.

But they might stop it from happening again if the perpetrators are imprisoned as a result of the footage.

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Post by themafia »

jacobgold wrote: post #176

If Waymo Premier includes an [EVASIVE MANEUVERS] button on the infotainment screen I'm in. I had a Uber driver block my Waymo at an intersection in SF some months ago just to be an asshole. Apparently some other people have been attacked and robbed while in a Waymo. Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it.

> Waymo should treat it like a security flaw that anyone can stop your car and there's nothing you can do about it.

And accept liability for obvious and potentially devistating problems? I wouldn't hold my breath.

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