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Re: Emacs appearances in pop culture

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Post by floxy »

jolmg wrote: post #32
zingar wrote: post #16

Enjoyable list but I’m not sure the AlphaGo documentary counts as pop culture :). It’s interesting how people talk about vi vs emacs, can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim, let alone enough people to make th at the debate.

> can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim, let alone enough people to make th at the debate. Because vim generally offers everything vi has. vi does have one advantage though. It's a lot lighter. vim is like 5.4MiB in size with 82 shared library dependencies, while vi[1] is like 260KiB with 2 library dependencies (libc and ncurses). [1] https://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/

For resource constrained systems, don't overlook busybox vi.

https://k.japko.eu/busybox-vi-tutorial.html

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Post by mghackerlady »

panza wrote: post #34

I've often felt that Emacs is more popular in Japan than I'd expect. Could just be blue car syndrome on my part.

There's two reasons for this, I think. The most obvious is that emacs has better CJK support compared to any other editor of the time. The less obvious is that Japan liked lisp machines and lisp in general a lot

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zingar wrote: post #16

Enjoyable list but I’m not sure the AlphaGo documentary counts as pop culture :). It’s interesting how people talk about vi vs emacs, can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim, let alone enough people to make th at the debate.

> can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim

Pleased to meet you.

Most of my console dev time is spent in *BSD, where nvi is where I land. I find the the default creature-features of vim annoying, so I end up having to configure it to be a bit more quiet, and I don't know anything so compelling about it (a vi clone (to an extreme, acknowledged)) that nvi isn't a good enough place to be. I have vim installed, but it's not my go-to.

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Post by justinhj »

dleslie wrote: post #19

Cryptonomicon has the use of a highly custom version of Emacs called OrdoEmacs. https://dev.to/hyenast2/neal-stephenson-s-cryptonomicon-and-...

There's a perl script in the book that does some encryption/decryption. I remember typing it out and fixing it so it worked.

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Post by jolmg »

bch wrote: post #44
zingar wrote: post #16

Enjoyable list but I’m not sure the AlphaGo documentary counts as pop culture :). It’s interesting how people talk about vi vs emacs, can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim, let alone enough people to make th at the debate.

> can’t remember ever meeting anyone who chose vi over vim Pleased to meet you. Most of my console dev time is spent in *BSD, where nvi is where I land. I find the the default creature-features of vim annoying, so I end up having to configure it to be a bit more quiet, and I don't know anything so compelling about it (a vi clone (to an extreme, acknowledged)) that nvi isn't a good enough place to be. I have vim insta…

> I don't know anything so compelling about it

For me, it'd be primarily having more than one undo. Not being able to undo the second-to-last change is pretty bad. In fact, vim's undo being set up as a tree that can be walked with g- and g+ is excellent. It's impossible to lose a state of the buffer, even if you undo and make changes. It's a lot more practical to navigate than Emacs' undo, too.

EDIT: I just realized that nvi can undo more than one change by having u toggle the direction and . continue in that direction. I don't think ex-vi could. busybox vi seems like it can undo multiple with u but it seems to have no redo.

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