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Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by warfangle »

mtgx wrote: post #37

This was just submitted a few hours ago: http://cbateman.com/blog/whats-missing-in-internet-explorer-... That's probably not even the full list of what's missing in IE10, as html5test puts IE10 way below the others in HTML5 features: http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html I wouldn't hold my breath for WebGL appearing even in IE11. Whatever Microsoft is saying, the "security" of WebGL is not the main reason why Mic…

I'd bet that they will never support webgl in IE -- it competes too directly with the windows/xbox360 directx gaming ecosystem.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by _pferreir_ »

Zirro wrote: post #21
martin_bech wrote: post #16

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.

> While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released.

I think it was bad even considering that it was released in 2001. Not supporting PNG alpha channel is just an example.

But I do agree that Microsoft taking so long to release IE7 made things even worse.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by stdgy »

Zirro wrote: post #21
martin_bech wrote: post #16

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.

The issue with Microsoft can be entirely explained by this sentence: "While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released."

Windows Update has been reasonably coherent since Windows XP. They've had the ability to push out software for a long, long time. Why isn't every person using Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 currently using Internet Explorer 10?

The issue at hand isn't that Internet Explorer 10 is bad. It's not! It's a great browser.

The issue is that Microsoft doesn't care about providing an ecosystem that protects people from legacy browser lock-in. They have the ability to transition tens of millions of users to a modern browser. But they haven't, and they won't. Actions speak louder than words. Or perhaps, in this case, inaction speaks louder than words. Until they join the rest of the browser vendors in the 21st century, they're simply not worth trusting.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

Zirro wrote: post #21
martin_bech wrote: post #16

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was…

"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.

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Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by thesis »

JackWebbHeller wrote: post #35
WayneDB wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With all 300 views...I doubt it will change anything at all. (EDIT: MY opinion will say the same until that view counter says a million and I highly doubt it will even get close. The only people who really care anyway are the "trolls" that Microsoft is talking about!)

Usually a video with 301 views means it's suddenly exploded virally. YouTube 'stops counting' temporarily at 300 views whilst it verifies that a video is being legitimately viewed by many people in a short space of time, rather than people artificially inflating their viewcount by whatever methods they can. In a matter of minutes or hours that number will suddenly increase significantly. So it's an anti-spam measure.…

Further confirming this, the video has 301 views and over 1800 likes, 400 dislikes.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by wiredfool »

marknutter wrote: post #27

This ad might have a point if it was actually IE10 that people hated. People hate IE 6, 7, 8, and 9, because they stalled web progress and MS did nothing proactive to try to filter them out of the marketplace. Talk about missing the point entirely.

I liked IE4 because it was pretty damn good.

I liked IE6 because it got me out of the hell that was IE4.

I liked IE8 because it got me out of the hell that was IE6.

I suspect I'm going to like IE10 because of IE8.

I'm going to hate IE10 because it's not Webkit/Gecko.

Re: Microsoft mocks Internet Explorer haters in new ad [video]

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Post by WiseWeasel »

CrossCircuit wrote: post #9

IE hate is well deserved. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of productive hours have been lost due to incompabilities, bugs, etc? That being said, Microsoft is full of talented people and they do create some fantastic products. IE is slowly getting to a more respectable point and hating on it so harshly seems juvenile.

The problem is all the users Microsoft will leave stranded on IE10 after web standards have progressed beyond that point, just as they've done with every previous version of IE. Microsoft is simply too slow to release new versions of IE, and too restrictive of the versions of Windows supported with each release. Nothing has changed with IE10, and developers will be working around its idiosyncrasies for many years to come, long after IE11 and 12 are shipped.
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