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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by parl_match »

STRiDEX wrote: post #90
ErroneousBosh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds more expensive than just owning a car.

parking in my condo that i own is $200 because the parking spaces are not deeded, shit is crazy here in sf

well, you voluntarily purchased a condo without deeded parking. if you want private storage for your private vehicle, pay for it.

i have a sports car and two motorcycles, and consequently, i did not buy a condo in the mission. instead, i bought a house by 19th street bart and my commute to the city is shorter than some of my coworkers who live half as far as me (by distance).

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by lotsofpulp »

parl_match wrote: post #105

Waymo will never be a serious option until they fix the insane surge pricing. And yes, they're working on it. > “I never got my driver's license, and I rely on Waymo to commute to an office every day," said Sarah Paige Roland, a Waymo rider in Phoenix. "I get privacy, time back, a safe ride, and I'm not obligated to talk to someone that I don't want to talk to. Adding cash back and priority pickups on top of that mak…

> use waymo if youre too stupid to get a DL and too antisocial to talk to people".

-or- use Waymo if you don’t want to spend resources on owning and maintaining a car, and if you are part of the population that has or may feel too intimidated or unsafe to navigate a potentially adversarial conversation with someone more powerful than you, such as women.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by parl_match »

RankingMember wrote: post #70
Rumudiez wrote: post #46

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that's crazy. my 2005 volvo, 1991 nissan, and 1986 toyota altogether cost me a little over $1k per year (mostly insurance) and it was less than $10k total to buy them all. goes to show average financial literacy in the US. people won't save a few grand for a used car (or take out a small loan even!) and then pay 10x the cost for new

I think you and I may be a rarity. Most people seem to value having new vehicles, and I don't say that dismissively- there's definitely something to be said for modern safety features as vehicles continue to grow bigger and heavier.

There's a difference between buying a GMC Pedestrian Destroyer and a Honda Civic.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by cflewis »

dabinat wrote: post #2

This caught my eye: > I'm not obligated to talk to someone that I don't want to talk to I’m wondering what we lose as a society if people never have to be in even a mildly uncomfortable situation. There’s a book called The Comfort Crisis about this topic. EDIT: The full quote is “I get privacy, time back, a safe ride, and I'm not obligated to talk to someone that I don't want to talk to.” In her quote she chose to se…

This is a male perspective.

My wife will not ride alone in Uber's because she's had one too many uncomfortable -> possibly dangerous situations.

This appears to be true for all of her friends as well.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by [deleted] »

ihaveajob wrote: post #64
tjohns wrote: post #58

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"Incurred violations" should be effectively $0. How often are you getting a traffic ticket? I think the last time I got a ticket was a decade ago...

Spread across a city probably more than you think, especially if you include parking tickets. I've never had a driving ticket, and maybe 4 parking ones over decades, but I'm probably on the lower end of the curve. In their first 40 days of operation, Oakland's speed cameras issued 82,000 tickets according to reports. I welcome those as they make streets safer, and I think they should be low cost, but high frequency.

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Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

boarsofcanada wrote: post #89

$30/mo is slightly mind boggling for this. I’ve enjoyed the ~70 or so Waymo rides I have taken but to me Waymo, Uber, and Lyft are methods of last resort. My feet, BART, and SFMuni are my primary methods of transportation and for $104/mo I can take an unlimited number of trips, usually very conveniently.

Yeah, but imagine you live in Phoenix, AZ, and you can't/won't drive for whatever reason, you've got to get to work every day. Phoenix has buses, but they're not going to be convenient for lots of possible daily commutes. Daily taxi/Uber/Waymo rides are probably a pretty good choice.

Or imagine that you work a professional travel job and you're flying to/from the airport on a weekly basis. Your employer will pay for your ride to the airport, so why would you take public transit? Now you're doing at least 3-4 taxi/uber/waymo rides a week.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by infecto »

tjohns wrote: post #58
libria wrote: post #48

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Add tag tax, residential parking, subsidized work parking, maintenance, incurred violations, tolls. 400/mo or 5000/yr for not having to worry about all that plus never playing the "wait let's circle the block, maybe a spot has opened up" game... sounds tempting.

"Incurred violations" should be effectively $0. How often are you getting a traffic ticket? I think the last time I got a ticket was a decade ago...

If you live in a city, parking tickets are fairly inevitable. I am sure some folks get away with none but at least in SF I have gotten tickets that were not even for the correct meter and it’s takes more time (at least used to) to fight it than pay the money.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by parl_match »

georgel wrote: post #106
officeplant wrote: post #81

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I can only get 1-2 years out of tires, but I also drive 25K+ miles a year. (And its a heavy EV Van) Tires are $800ish a set for the affordable ones (also due to heavy van) Cabin air filter is twice a year at $18 a filter (I replace them as soon as it smells weird) Home electricity is cheap at least. (7¢/kw)

Must be nice to have dirt cheap electricity. PG&E rates are 0.26 to 0.62/kw for the EV plan. Source: https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/resid...

Even with "expensive" electricity, and using your worst case scenario, it's still usually cheaper to charge 400 mile EV from 0-100% (another worst case scenario), than it is to fill up an equivalent gas vehicle. Even before the current gas prices spike.

But let's use your "worst case" scenario.

Worst case 300 mile EV charge (100%, during peak hours): about $50

Filling up a highly fuel efficient ICE vehicle: about $40

Of course, if you only charge the EV to 80% (as is recommended, and more efficient), and only set it to charge it off-peak (as is normal), then the numbers are much better. There are, of course, worst case scenarios, but it's actually hard to make an EV more expensive than an ICE vehicle.

I would say that to charge an EV with a 350 mile range to 300 miles would be about $25 here in California. Right now, a 300 mile range tank of gas is easily $60 or $70.

You have to lose the old mindset of a gas vehicle, ie, you "fill it up" once. EVs are much more convenient: it takes 10 seconds to plug it in when you get home and then the next day it's fully charged - and they're almost all grid pricing aware.

Like, on my BMW PHEV, if I try to fast charge during peak times, the charger actually makes me confirm i want to spend more, instead of trickle charging until 8PM.

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by solenoid0937 »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #30
smy20011 wrote: post #15

It will pay for itself if you spend >300$ per month. I personally wish Waymo have a 399$ per month subscription that give 2 free ride per day so I don't need to own a car just for work.

That sounds more expensive than just owning a car.

Even if it is expensive, it's much more convenient

Re: Waymo Premier

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Post by SauntSolaire »

xyst wrote: post #101

Premier? How outdated. Should have named it "Waymo Supreme" for that extra generational cringe. What’s up with the fake review? > I get privacy, time back, … Yea you get "privacy" in a car kitted with the most advanced 360 degree camera system in the interior and exterior of the vehicle. Waymo PR team unhinged

For a lot of people, privacy can simply mean not having to share a space with someone else.
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