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Software is made between commits

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Re: Software is made between commits

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This seems like a great way to facilitate data gathering for improving LLMs coding performance.

If previously you needed to take action 1, 2, 3 to go from state A to B, all you saw was the change from A, B. Now you see intermediates 1, 2, 3 and can train the models to skip straight to B with the added context of the intermediate states.

Re: Software is made between commits

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Post by Xotic007 »

A commit is useful because you cleaned it up first. The messing around in between is where you try things and delete the dead ends and most of it is meant to be thrown away. Saving every change and every agent message keeps all that junk around instead.

Re: Software is made between commits

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Post by NewJazz »

0xb0565e486 wrote: post #33
tomjakubowski wrote: post #20

I really don't like this. The code I write between commits is my thinking. I think by writing some code out, deleting it, writing again. The code I write that's shipped in commits is written for others to understand, and is a product of that writing for thinking process. I don't want my thoughts to be serialized, version controlled and publicly accessible. https://www.nature.com/articles/s44222-025-00323-4

Aren't you paid to think?

A woodworker is paid to work with wood. But the finished product is the worked wood, not a detailed summary of how the wood was worked with.

Re: Software is made between commits

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

dematz wrote: post #8
axegon_ wrote: post #5

I'll probably get more hate for saying this but fine: I use Zed 50% of the time (the other 50% dedicated to vim) for two reasons: 1. It is fast and snappy. Nothing comes even close besides vim (and I don't mind going full time to it if I have to) 2. The ability to completely shut off and block any slop machine features from interfering with my workflow or leak code back to sloppenai, sloppus or any other self-install…

there is a fork of zed against ai: https://gram-editor.com/ I am happy about even though I've never tried gram, because if zed goes to shit there will be an alternative, which hopefully pressures zed to stay sane

Thank you for that link! Looks like it fixes all of my annoyances with Zed; I'll have to try it out.

Re: Software is made between commits

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Post by ukprogrammer »

With LLMs now being responsible for the physical typing of code and mundane plumbing tasks, this is a wise direction to go into

Our human ability is not defined by our _absolute_ output, but, by the quality of the _delta_ applied to an engineering artefact

Great engineers obsess over every keystroke

With LLMs, a much smaller number of keystrokes can create a much larger and more positively impactful delta

Every delta to the codebase can tell us some informational property about the behaviour of the system and storing that information WILL prove to be useful in the future

Re: Software is made between commits

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Post by gmueckl »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #20

I really don't like this. The code I write between commits is my thinking. I think by writing some code out, deleting it, writing again. The code I write that's shipped in commits is written for others to understand, and is a product of that writing for thinking process. I don't want my thoughts to be serialized, version controlled and publicly accessible. https://www.nature.com/articles/s44222-025-00323-4

Don't be afraid to show your thoughts when asked to. The best developers are those that can express their thoughts clearly at any stage throughout their process. This is one of the skills that shows to me the level of experience a developer has.
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