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MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by forshaper »

unshavedyak wrote: post #113
MangoCoffee wrote: post #107

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> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels ind…

Cold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those.

I think there's something social going on.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by emulio »

meatmanek wrote: post #101
folkrav wrote: post #84

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You're right that it's as dangerous as it's executing random third-party code on your machine, but the method also has propagated far beyond PoCs and such at this point. All of these projects and many others push that install method: Bun, Deno, rustup, k3s, Docker (if using their helper script), Homebrew, Tailscale...

Frankly, it's not really more insecure than any other installation method. Apt packages and the like generally have the ability to specify pre/post-install scripts, so `sudo dpkg -i ./random.deb` is equivalent to `sudo bash ./random.sh`. Even if they didn't have pre/post-install scripts, they're still writing arbitrary files to arbitrary locations on your disk, so they can trigger execution the next time you boot or…

A package (like a .deb) is a static artifact. It can be hashed, mirrored, and GPG-signed. Package managers usually verify that signature before any pre/post-install scripts. A "curl | bash" pipe is a dynamic stream; the server can perform targeted attacks: sending a clean script to 99% of users and a malicious payload only to a specific IP address or User-Agent. This allows for targeted attacks that are invisible to the rest of the community.

Yes, running third-party code is always a leap of faith, but why choose a delivery method that removes the possibility of verification and opens the door to targeted injections? Convenience shouldn't be an excuse to ignore basic security hygiene.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by organsnyder »

unshavedyak wrote: post #113
MangoCoffee wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels ind…

I think the difference is that many data centers are being built as cheaply as possible, with no regards for noise prevention, their effect on the energy grid, etc. Data centers have been located near people for decades, but most of them are completely inconspicuous because they are designed to mitigate their effect on their surroundings.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by gostsamo »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #107
adi2907 wrote: post #94

What a transformation by Xiaomi to build almost frontier level models. Five years back, when I was in the data science team, they dint really bother about AI models and were using Baidu for NLP and vision under the hood of their APIs

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Do you know the old anecdote about the russian and american scientists talking about freedom? The one where the american explains that he is free to go and protest against the war in Vietnam and where the russian dismisses him that he is also free to protest against the war in Vietnam.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by rwyinuse »

forshaper wrote: post #121
unshavedyak wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels ind…

Cold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those. I think there's something social going on.

Those consume nowhere near as much electricity as data centers.

Of course electricity wouldn't be such a problem if US government chose to invest in cheap, sustainable energy sources and upgrade its grid. China is building solar and nuclear like crazy, and that gives them a massive advantage here.

Hopefully in future elections Americans choose a candidate and party that isn't bought by the fossil fuel lobby.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by genewitch »

forshaper wrote: post #121
unshavedyak wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels ind…

Cold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those. I think there's something social going on.

industrial greenhouses make noise? I live near Forest Hill, LA, which is where tons of nurseries set up, dozens and dozens. they all have greenhouses. No noise. I bet their electrical connections don't raise prices of local residents, either.

So is it the water? I don't know where i sit on the water argument. Equinix near LAX had chillers, i guess, but really it's just massive HVAC. chillers don't work everywhere (my understanding). I don't remember plumes of humidity coming off the facility, either. I also don't remember being able to hear it from outside the building, or even in the foyer before you went through the mancatchers.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by elxr »

spelk wrote: post #114
miroljub wrote: post #93

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Looks like they have very effective collaboration with DeepSeek and Kimi. Those three models have been bouncing ideas and sharing R&D innovation, which made all of them improve very fast. Based solely on quality and price, OpenAI, Anthropic, and other western models just can't compete with the new generation of Chinese open models.

>Looks like they have very effective collaboration with DeepSeek and Kimi. The collaboration is informal. People don’t seem to realize this, but the Chinese internet for programmers and developers today feels a lot like StackExchange in its heyday. There’s a huge emphasis on sharing knowledge, because sharing what you know builds your profile, and becoming a rockstar in a subfield is one of the only ways to get ahead…

What forums do Chinese programmers use that you would recommend exploring around in?

Mainly want to see the people who are building stuff I've never even thought of.

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by ignoramous »

adi2907 wrote: post #94

What a transformation by Xiaomi to build almost frontier level models. Five years back, when I was in the data science team, they dint really bother about AI models and were using Baidu for NLP and vision under the hood of their APIs

Wrote this eons ago:

  I fully expect Baidu and other tech giants on the Chinese shores to try and push the boundaries of technology. Silicon Valley (and the US) in general has always been the hot-bed of innovation. But with enormous increase in wealth in China (and to an extent in India), I can see these companies being more and more ambitious. Not long ago Andrew Ng of Coursera and Stanford AI Lab fame joined Baidu to further their rival to the 'Google Brain' project.

  Xiaomi has long been positioning itself as a company with design chops of Apple, engineering chops of Google, and e-commerce chops of Amazon, all rolled into one-- and I can see where they are coming from. If they manage to pull it off, I guess that's when we'd start seeing the proverbial "Death of Silicon Valley" as in, it loosing its strange monopoly and strangle hold on tech world in terms of both talent and innovation.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9421471

Re: MiMo Code is now released and open-source

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Post by gramie »

organsnyder wrote: post #123
unshavedyak wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels ind…

I think the difference is that many data centers are being built as cheaply as possible, with no regards for noise prevention, their effect on the energy grid, etc. Data centers have been located near people for decades, but most of them are completely inconspicuous because they are designed to mitigate their effect on their surroundings.

Not to mention raising local temperatures by as much as 16°F

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/30/climate/data-centers-are-...

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