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Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

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Agreed! Google, Apple and Adobe own/use it. If they all want common web standards, why are you implementing different variations? Unless there is a security risk or something glaring we're missing... Edit: Atleast IE9 and IE10 pass the Acid3 test 100/100. Not sure how that reflects on html5/css3.

How are they owning it? WebKit is open source.

They're the primary developers.

Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

#25
I think most of us can agree that IE 10 has come along way. The reason web developers hate IE is when we have to build sites for older versions of IE because people can't or won't upgrade. Sometimes clients require support for these older browsers. I have no problems with IE 10, but those older versions that just won't die are the problem.

Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

#26
post #10

If they were going to rebuild it from the ground up anyway, would it really have killed them to just use Webkit?

A browser rendering engine is a pretty crucial piece of strategic infrastructure for an operating system company. Having future features controlled by a competitor isn't a great place to be in.

webkit isn't controlled by a competitor necessarily. It's an open source project with contributors from lots of companies. Apple started it, so they likely have the most say right now but I think plenty of people at Google have a bit of power. I'm sure that if Microsoft was to put serious effort into it, they would get decision making power too.

Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

#27
post #14

Translating: "we never gave a fuck about web standards because we were a monopoly, now we realized we're losing the war and decided to improve things. Hope it's not too late..."

...but you still have to upgrade your copy Windows

Not if you're running Windows 7.

If you're running XP or Vista and you're happy with that, then you probably don't care very much about which browser you're using.

Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

#29
Recently, I hit a JS issue in IE10 that existed in prior versions of IE. I used to fix it with conditional comments - but since IE10 removed those, it required an even uglier hack to fix.

I don't know if my JS is bad, but the fact that every other browser handled it fine left me with the same awful taste in my mouth as every other version of IE. I really don't want to hate IE10, but so far, no good.

Re: The Browser You Loved to Hate

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed! Google, Apple and Adobe own/use it. If they all want common web standards, why are you implementing different variations? Unless there is a security risk or something glaring we're missing... Edit: Atleast IE9 and IE10 pass the Acid3 test 100/100. Not sure how that reflects on html5/css3.

How are they owning it? WebKit is open source.

WebKit is open source, and you can fork it. But you can't make changes to the main version unless they are approved, and Apple is the gatekeeper there.
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