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BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by z2 »

gcanyon wrote: post #5

As an American, I'm going to be really sad when we miss this transition. Maybe there's still time?

I see parallels with the failed metric system transition: a voluntary shift with inconsistent policy, the impression that it's all just an elitist/foreign conspiracy, cultural/political resistance, and so on. Of the major developed economies, only Japan is lower on BEV market share. Realistically the transition will probably happen in pockets, for instance California has similar EV sales share as Germany right now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_country

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by eunos »

pjc50 wrote: post #29
Grombobulous wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will happen. My guess is that Canada is BYD’s pilot into the US. They have very similar buyer characteristics and the Canadian tariff deal allows them to enter the market without taking the risks of local factories. It won’t take much to get BYD access to the US. It’s a two-step process: - Toss a million bucks at Trump or wait for a Democratic administration - Build a plant in Alabama/Tennessee/South Carolina/Geor…

I suspect America will continue to be weird about China until one of three things happens: - a new Great Power enemy is selected; it would make sense for this to be Russia, but India is also a candidate - some sort of face-saving moral victory is achieved which allows the US to continue feeling superior and not threatened by China's capability (unclear what this might look like) - Xi dies and his replacement launches…

> Xi dies and his replacement launches a relationship reset

Among all Chinese leaders from the past and likely to the near future, Xi Jinping is the warmest towards US. He cherished his short stay in Iowa and his daughter graduated from Harvard. I dont think future leaders will share that feeling.

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by mekdoonggi »

soco wrote: post #26
stymaar wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> batteries next to these chargers that they charge "off peak" I don't think that's what they'll do. Charging off peak means being able to store the entirety of the energy demand for the power station in a battery, which is going to be very expensive (assuming 20 cars charge during peak hours every day, that'd mean having to swallow the cost of 20 cars worth of battery per charging station. Good luck getting a good R…

So do those batteries support fast charging AND fast discharging?

Yes. IIRC they are the same batteries in the cars.

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by eunos »

Grombobulous wrote: post #7
gcanyon wrote: post #5

As an American, I'm going to be really sad when we miss this transition. Maybe there's still time?

It will happen. My guess is that Canada is BYD’s pilot into the US. They have very similar buyer characteristics and the Canadian tariff deal allows them to enter the market without taking the risks of local factories. It won’t take much to get BYD access to the US. It’s a two-step process: - Toss a million bucks at Trump or wait for a Democratic administration - Build a plant in Alabama/Tennessee/South Carolina/Geor…

Nope the congressfolks from Ohio and Michigan would never allows that

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by Tostino »

soco wrote: post #26
stymaar wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> batteries next to these chargers that they charge "off peak" I don't think that's what they'll do. Charging off peak means being able to store the entirety of the energy demand for the power station in a battery, which is going to be very expensive (assuming 20 cars charge during peak hours every day, that'd mean having to swallow the cost of 20 cars worth of battery per charging station. Good luck getting a good R…

So do those batteries support fast charging AND fast discharging?

Generally fast charging has been a much harder nut to crack than fast discharge. If you have fast charging you necessarily have fast discharge in my experience.

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by wombat-man »

Grombobulous wrote: post #7
gcanyon wrote: post #5

As an American, I'm going to be really sad when we miss this transition. Maybe there's still time?

It will happen. My guess is that Canada is BYD’s pilot into the US. They have very similar buyer characteristics and the Canadian tariff deal allows them to enter the market without taking the risks of local factories. It won’t take much to get BYD access to the US. It’s a two-step process: - Toss a million bucks at Trump or wait for a Democratic administration - Build a plant in Alabama/Tennessee/South Carolina/Geor…

Idk we have a lot of protectionism around vehicle sales in the US already. I don't think it'll be easy but it could happen.

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by pjc50 »

varispeed wrote: post #30

So if China attacks Taiwan and NATO intervenes, how Canada will ensure BYD will not remotely brick the charging infrastructure or will not make cars suddenly speed up and crash into oncoming traffic?

Same question, but for Tesla and the proposed US invasion of Canada.

(one of those things which the POTUS says that we're all told shouldn't be taken as serious or real, as if that wasn't a massive disqualification for him)

Re: BYD is bringing its 5-min 'Flash' electric car charging to Canada

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Post by pjc50 »

ck2 wrote: post #39

There is a huge startup opportunity, steal this idea: US Governement doesn't allow BYD imports BUT you can lease a car from Canada for a year in US So lease BYD a year at a time with Canadian plates, etc. to US drivers

Some US politicians were proposing a total ban on allowing cars of Chinese origin into the US, which is rather extreme. They don't want to risk US nationals seeing them and wanting them.
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