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Lines of code got a better publicist

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Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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> "Augment surveyed 219 engineering leaders and asked them to define “AI-native engineering” . They got 219 different answers."

I mean, if you give 219 people a free text box and ask them to explain anything, you're extremely unlikely to get the exact same answer twice...

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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This weird trend reached an apex in a Feb 2026 OpenAI blog post [1], recently on the front page [2], which describes the process for building... something... written 100% by agents.

There is no description of what the thing is, no indication of what value it provides its users. The closest it gets is "the product has been used by hundreds of users internally, including daily internal power users".

But the fact that the thing has a million lines of code is repeated twice in the first few hundred words.

[1] https://openai.com/index/harness-engineering/

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48416264

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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I'm constantly thinking about that Microsoft guy who posted something like "we want 1 million LoC per engineer per month", which basically read as satire to most engineers I talked to, except apparently it was not satire at all, and indeed seemed to reflect the position of many CEOs etc when it comes to LLM code generation.

I do think that over the past few months, it feels like the hype around producing unmaintainable amounts of LoC has started dying down. More pragmatic and realistic takes are seemingly shared more openly, and are maybe even getting through to top leadership at some tech companies. Maybe not all is lost yet.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#7
When I read recent news on HN, I feel it is a fable about Goodhart's Law. The law says: 'When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.' The dog should wag its tail. But the tail is wagging the dog.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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post #6

I'm constantly thinking about that Microsoft guy who posted something like "we want 1 million LoC per engineer per month", which basically read as satire to most engineers I talked to, except apparently it was not satire at all, and indeed seemed to reflect the position of many CEOs etc when it comes to LLM code generation. I do think that over the past few months, it feels like the hype around producing unmaintainab…

The word “slop” was a good choice to talk about the mass of code generated by AI. I think it resonates with non-tech people and it conveys disgust. It’s clear that we should avoid slop.

“Technical debt” never hooked management in the same way and we have found it hard to convince them that it needs to be addressed. Debt in general is something that can be a problem, but doesn’t need to be avoided or addressed until it is a problem so the can is kicked down the road.

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