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The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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Trump has taken corruption to a new level. Biden was bad, this is worse. It’s like stealing power lines for their copper, the damage to the general wealth is immense. I think a big part of the shift to democrats in advance of the midterms is the hope that democratic oversight will put an end to it.

Either way, this is what the looting stage of collapse looks like to me.

I have no love for communist regimes but this corrupt capitalism alternative understandably isn’t appetizing. Consider the damage the Harvard Institute for International Development did to post USSR and how a country that was eager to adopt western ways was introduced to new levels of looting they didn’t even know was possible. Perhaps if we had a better track record in governance people wouldn’t be so reluctant to adopt it.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

There is a strong argument that the Cuban government has treated many Cuban citizens badly. But the assertion that this mistreatment is why the US is behaving aggressively towards Cuba is pretty naive. The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

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Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

I can't comment much on Cuban-American immigrant feelings about Castro or the current Cuban government, but Marco Rubio's parents fled the US-backed regime of Fulgencio Batista, who Castro overthrew.

Maybe that's an example we should pay attention to though. How many of Cuba's problems are caused by the US doubling-down on trying to interfere? Obviously their current power outages are.

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

There is a strong argument that the Cuban government has treated many Cuban citizens very badly. But the assertion that this mistreatment is why the US is behaving aggressively towards Cuba is pretty naive. The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

No offense, in my opinion you are being very arrogant. Foreign intervention doesn’t relate to fixing a country.

Think about how harmful Trump is to his country and how harmful he can be to a country that he doesn’t have any responsibility to. It shouldn’t be difficult to understand.

People who live outside if their country and say things like this are being shallow. They are understandably frustrated but this is not a healthy way as can be seen in numerous examples in history

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The extremity of the current administration's actions do not absolve the sins of others. The extremity of the current administration's actions should not be ignored just because others did some things in a similar direction. "Yawn, same shit different day" is how we sleepwalk ourselves into fascism.

Comments like that aren’t “sleepwalking”. They are complicit.

Exactly. It's a strange form of whataboutism, mixed with learned helplessness, to imply that having sucked for decades, we can't avoid sucking even more now.

Re: The U.S. Is Terrorizing Cuba to Make Rich Men Richer

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The person who wrote this never asked a Cuban immigrant how they felt about the government in Cuba. Many will tell you a story about how their family desperately escaped on a row boat, are lucky to be alive and blame Castro. The bottom line is that many Cuban immigrants in the United States feel that the current government destroyed the country and should be removed and Marco Rubio’s quest to fix Cuba is a reflection…

There is a strong argument that the Cuban government has treated many Cuban citizens badly. But the assertion that this mistreatment is why the US is behaving aggressively towards Cuba is pretty naive. The people in power in the US at the moment do not care about the civil and political rights of Cubans. They care about acquiring Cuba and its natural reaources for themselves and their clients.

Marco Rubio cares about his own quest to be the man who finally frees Cuba from communism. He doesn’t care about natural resources. It’s a pride thing. And I’m fine with that.
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