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Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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So, the US relearns all the lessons of the Russo-Ukrainian war the hard way? Choppers proved very vulnerable already in 2022. History often repeats itself. In a similar way, Great Powers like France refused to study the lessons of the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5 because it was something that happened in barbarian lands far away from glorious Europe, so it was obviously irrelevant to them, right? And then the shock o…

Absolutely incorrect. The attitude within the military industrial complex towards drone/UAVs has shifted enormously since the Russia/Ukraine conflict. However, procurement times on new equipment is on the order of several years to nearly a decade. There's not enough time to produce nor acquire this hardware.

The US military is sitting on decades of older equipment. The Ukraine conflict started four years ago. Complaining that the US has not overhauled its inventory in just four years is unreasonable and unrealistic.

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

#14

So, the US relearns all the lessons of the Russo-Ukrainian war the hard way? Choppers proved very vulnerable already in 2022. History often repeats itself. In a similar way, Great Powers like France refused to study the lessons of the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5 because it was something that happened in barbarian lands far away from glorious Europe, so it was obviously irrelevant to them, right? And then the shock o…

I am far from a US supporter, but just because a single Apache was downed, doesn't mean the US isnt adapting to the new kind of warfare we've seen from Ukraine. Also Iran =/= Ukraine.

Furthermore, Choppers arent obsolete and if you got em, it makes sense go use them.

Currently it's hard for any nation to meaningfully adapt, as the new tech develops far faster than any governement procurment process.

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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Not by chance. Why is the US Army helicopter flying in another sovereign country? The USA is the Russia of the West nowadays.

It was a defensive flight deploying defensive missiles and defensive bullets against offensive school children who were threatening other countries by being in their own country. Shooting back is an act of war that must be responded to.

(I would add that this is sarcasm, but it is reality for a lot of people sadly)

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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So, the US relearns all the lessons of the Russo-Ukrainian war the hard way? Choppers proved very vulnerable already in 2022. History often repeats itself. In a similar way, Great Powers like France refused to study the lessons of the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-5 because it was something that happened in barbarian lands far away from glorious Europe, so it was obviously irrelevant to them, right? And then the shock o…

Absolutely incorrect. The attitude within the military industrial complex towards drone/UAVs has shifted enormously since the Russia/Ukraine conflict. However, procurement times on new equipment is on the order of several years to nearly a decade. There's not enough time to produce nor acquire this hardware. The US military is sitting on decades of older equipment. The Ukraine conflict started four years ago. Complai…

Well then they have to hurry up or loose the war ;-)

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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post #7

Not by chance. Why is the US Army helicopter flying in another sovereign country? The USA is the Russia of the West nowadays.

The helicopter in question was flying in Oman, in Omani territorial waters. Why does Iran have the right to fire drones into other countries?

Because the US fired missiles from other countries? It's not a game of mounted tag.

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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post #13

Don't those Shaheds run on nVidia Jetson? Jensen cashing in again. Funny that most of the hardware in those drones is designed in the US. Stop hitting yourself.

Local wood frames, carbon from Japan, hardware designed in the USA, produced in China with Nvidia soft. It's kind of funny if it wasn't so wasteful on global resources.

Re: Cheap Iranian drone downed $25M US Army helicopter–maybe by chance

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post #13

Don't those Shaheds run on nVidia Jetson? Jensen cashing in again. Funny that most of the hardware in those drones is designed in the US. Stop hitting yourself.

I don't know why you think that Russia is able to get GPUs when the entire rest of the world can't.

The drones run on literally whatever is available because any Western-built one is restricted to Iran or Russia.

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