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Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Currently Fable is available through Chinese resellers at around ~$17.50/1M tokens, or about a 65% discount vs API prices. Still expensive compared to Opus.

... how. how is that even possible. pirated usage plans?

Account sharing. They route your request via one of thousands of Max 5X accounts.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Currently Fable is available through Chinese resellers at around ~$17.50/1M tokens, or about a 65% discount vs API prices. Still expensive compared to Opus.

... how. how is that even possible. pirated usage plans?

They're reselling pooled capacity from many Max accounts through Chinese proxies at below official prices:

https://www.chinatalk.media/p/the-grey-market-for-american-l...

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Too expensive, yet probably still too cheap to make up for their cost of developing and running it. Don’t expect prices to go down. Or if they superficially go down, the models just consume more tokens per task so your bill still increases in the end.

It's only available on the $100-$200/month subscription plans until June 22nd, after which they're going to be charging everyone the full API token price. Then it's going to be really expensive. (I think it may even be expensive enough for them to recoup their costs, unless OpenAI or Gemini put out a similar capability model before Anthropic have had a few months to make bank from it. There was that rumored customer…

Ah, well that makes sense. Will be interesting to see what adoption looks like for a model that’s billed at a more realistic price-point towards profitability.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Fable so far has only been incrementally better than Opus 4.8 in my testing. The testing so far has been coding on a large monolith. In general Claude is starting to feel like it's optimize for greenfield vibe-coding projects. I vastly prefer Codex for coding on large, established codebases.

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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Well, as predicted I see many here complaining about how expensive Fable is. [0]

It is not just companies that know it is economically expensive, but it is also expensive to companies who have zero-data retention policies and they cannot offer AI features that use this model.

Anthropic doesn't care and won't talk to you unless you're paying them hundreds of millions. There are now local models which are great alternatives which have no quotas and can work with companies that have zero data retention policies.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48467112

Re: Tell HN: Anthropic's Fable model is too expensive

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OpenCode has a generous $10 plan for open weight models, I'm quite happy with it https://opencode.ai/docs/go/ Fireworks.ai has a $50 plan in early access https://docs.fireworks.ai/firepass I'm shopping around for more good deals like this, I'm long on open weights and sour on Big Ai

None of those models are Fable's class. There are definitely many cheaper options for LLM agents, but people are paying attention to Fable for a reason.
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