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AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

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Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#12

Post by scared_together »

12_throw_away wrote: post #6

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says > To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified. Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether thi…

And what’s stopping an AI agent from throwing in a casual NATCIOS here and there?

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#13

Post by scared_together »

keyle wrote: post #9

There is a natural pace of humans requiring food, water and sleep. The main issue with suspicious AI agents is that they never sleep. So it will take extra-coordination between timezones to ensure we don't let them in. Fundamentally, until we can really prove we're humans online, open-source has a real problem on its hands. Contributions from people from identities known and consistent before the AI-age are fine, eve…

> Contributions from people from identities known and consistent before the AI-age are fine

Unfortunately, according to the article:

> Giovannini has participated in discussions at least as far back as 2018, and his activity in Bugzilla goes back to at least 2016. He does not appear to have been a particularly active contributor to the project, but his involvement clearly predates the agentic AI era. Whether his account is now being operated by a human attacker, an agentic AI, or a mix of both, it has a legitimate history prior to its recent activity.

So people would have to not only verify the age of Giovanni’s accounts, but judge whether his behaviour was normal.

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#14

Post by numbsafari »

scared_together wrote: post #12
12_throw_away wrote: post #6

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says > To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified. Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether thi…

And what’s stopping an AI agent from throwing in a casual NATCIOS here and there?

I too have see the fnords

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#15

Post by nine_k »

12_throw_away wrote: post #6

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says > To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified. Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether thi…

Likely the point of NATCIOS is exactly in being a made-up word not found anywhere, so a model won't utter it.

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

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Post by Terr_ »

12_throw_away wrote: post #6

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says > To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified. Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether thi…

Because I'm probably not the only one thinking it, here are anagrams [0] for your Setec Astronomy needs.

[0] https://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=NATCIOS&t=...

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#18

Post by pianopatrick »

scared_together wrote: post #11
pianopatrick wrote: post #4

"Someone using an AI agent ran amok in Fedora and elsewhere"

Read closer - Giovanni’s accounts may have been compromised.

Sure, but I would expect that the compromise and the agent were both done by some person or group, not by an agent going rogue

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#19

Post by g-b-r »

luk212 wrote: post #8

Bad patches are of course bad, but creating confident-looking noise for maintainers who are already stretched thin...now that's not good! Issue trackers and PRs are definitely getting harder and harder to trust. That said, AI is helping ALOT in OSS, but we definitely need guardrails around provenance, automated issue actions, and sudden changes in a contributor’s behavior.

How is it helping a lot?

Re: AI agent runs amok in Fedora and elsewhere

#20

Post by no-name-here »

12_throw_away wrote: post #6

In their suspicious message [1] claiming to have been hacked, the user and/or agent says > To help identify accounts and actions that have been directly verified by me, I will use the term “NATCIOS” to indicate anything I have personally verified. Does anyone have any idea what "NATCIOS" means here? I cannot find this term anywhere on the internet. (Honestly, that sentence is really weird. I almost wonder whether thi…

The senders name is Nathan - maybe NAThan Confirmed Information Or Something? Ha.

(Above is my own guess. Separately, Gemini Pro said it was just a made up word.)

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