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Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by theappsecguy »

danudey wrote: post #199
rvz wrote: post #94

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Correct and they have no idea what they are doing.

I mean, that's kind of a stretch given how popular and well-regarded Claude Code is at this point. They're not perfect but they seem to be the best out there at this point.

It's popular because they have the best models and they are burning obscene amounts of money handing out tokens via subscriptions (for now) at a huge discount compared to what the API costs are.

Claude Code itself is incredibly buggy and as we have seen the codebase is a complete mess of slop.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by HDBaseT »

adi_kurian wrote: post #128
BigTTYGothGF wrote: post #121

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> Gmail isn't outstanding, search isn't outstanding, maps isn't outstanding They were at the time.

Is there a better Maps app? I guess those gaussian splats on Apple Maps could be p. neat.

Bing still has maps, although I wouldn't say its better.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by harrall »

danudey wrote: post #175
xp84 wrote: post #129

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I'm not a fan of Google, and also not attached to Apple or Microsoft, so this isn't me trying to stan for Google, but I'd like to request that you give examples of what competing products are categorically better (and, by what metric(s) you're judging - code quality? stability? robust set of features?) -- for Gmail, Docs/Drive/etc, Google Calendar, Maps, Classroom, YouTube. As far as I can tell, if judged by the mark…

The major differentiating factor that Google has had in every product category is that their products are free and you have to deal with ads (and they monitor your behavior for profiling you and your interests). GMail and Google Maps were revolutionary when they came out, sure, but the vast majority of Google's products now are... fine? at best? And a lot of their "big products" were acquisitions that they absorbed i…

I just don’t think your opinion is shared by most people.

Gmail is the most popular email service in the world, people are always telling me how they prefer Google Docs over everything else and their only competition is Microsoft.

Yes it’s free but there is no other service that I rather switch to, and I actually pay for additional storage.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by Gander5739 »

rustystump wrote: post #180
xp84 wrote: post #129

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I'm not a fan of Google, and also not attached to Apple or Microsoft, so this isn't me trying to stan for Google, but I'd like to request that you give examples of what competing products are categorically better (and, by what metric(s) you're judging - code quality? stability? robust set of features?) -- for Gmail, Docs/Drive/etc, Google Calendar, Maps, Classroom, YouTube. As far as I can tell, if judged by the mark…

Funny. Search is the only thing that is outstanding as it is the big revenue arm, that and youtube. The last time i tried using gmaps i got ads and the thing could figure out where i was on the roads. It was comical as i always remembered google maps being better than apple. Today tho, apple beats them hands down. Googles products that do not get cancelled are pretty mediocre in todays market. They can build useful t…

> the thing could figure out where i was on the roads

Is this missing a "not"?

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by antonvs »

spott wrote: post #114
jstummbillig wrote: post #108

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How are Google products anything but outstanding in their categories? What are you comparing to?

Which products are outstanding in their categories? Gmail isn't outstanding, search isn't outstanding, maps isn't outstanding. They are all pretty par for the course. Google used to be outstanding... but I'm not sure of a single product they have that is outstanding (def: significantly better than the competition) anymore. On the other hand I rarely use any google products these days, so maybe I'm not the one to be j…

I think you’re talking about consumer products.

At the enterprise level, if you know of something better than Bigquery, please let me know.

Similarly, Kubernetes and Kubeflow are both outstanding - and Licenses Kubernetes has no meaningful competition for what it does - but Google did everyone a solid by making them open source, so you can get them from other sources than Google. But the Google managed versions are certainly extremely good.

As for the idea that Gmail, search, and Maps aren’t outstanding, an easy way to refute that is to ask what the outstanding alternatives are. I doubt there’s a single list that many people would agree on.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by tom_ »

antonvs wrote: post #109
tom_ wrote: post #75

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That could be true, but I don't think I'd bet on it myself.

Good call. The original comment is making fun of the incorrect double negative. “Without no way” means there is a way.

Many kinds of double negative are acceptable in many English dialects, and are interpreted as emphasis. The negatives add, rather than multiply. (Though I admit I myself don't speak such a dialect, hence the equivocation.)

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by wvenable »

danudey wrote: post #175
xp84 wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a fan of Google, and also not attached to Apple or Microsoft, so this isn't me trying to stan for Google, but I'd like to request that you give examples of what competing products are categorically better (and, by what metric(s) you're judging - code quality? stability? robust set of features?) -- for Gmail, Docs/Drive/etc, Google Calendar, Maps, Classroom, YouTube. As far as I can tell, if judged by the mark…

The major differentiating factor that Google has had in every product category is that their products are free and you have to deal with ads (and they monitor your behavior for profiling you and your interests). GMail and Google Maps were revolutionary when they came out, sure, but the vast majority of Google's products now are... fine? at best? And a lot of their "big products" were acquisitions that they absorbed i…

> GMail and Google Maps were revolutionary when they came out, sure, but the vast majority of Google's products now are... fine? at best?

Is that... good? I mean take maps -- what more can possibly be done to that product that wouldn't just make it worse? It's done. The fact that's the default choice for mapping and just works is fantastic really. There aren't any competitors doing anything revolutionary either because there isn't anything revolutionary to be done.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by phs318u »

harrall wrote: post #213
danudey wrote: post #175

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The major differentiating factor that Google has had in every product category is that their products are free and you have to deal with ads (and they monitor your behavior for profiling you and your interests). GMail and Google Maps were revolutionary when they came out, sure, but the vast majority of Google's products now are... fine? at best? And a lot of their "big products" were acquisitions that they absorbed i…

I just don’t think your opinion is shared by most people. Gmail is the most popular email service in the world, people are always telling me how they prefer Google Docs over everything else and their only competition is Microsoft. Yes it’s free but there is no other service that I rather switch to, and I actually pay for additional storage.

By any definition of good usability, Gmail is not good and Google Docs are not far behind. It’s not that they are functionally bad, just really poor UX.

Re: Claude Desktop spawns 1.8 GB Hyper-V VM on every launch, even for chat-only use

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Post by skydhash »

harrall wrote: post #213
danudey wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The major differentiating factor that Google has had in every product category is that their products are free and you have to deal with ads (and they monitor your behavior for profiling you and your interests). GMail and Google Maps were revolutionary when they came out, sure, but the vast majority of Google's products now are... fine? at best? And a lot of their "big products" were acquisitions that they absorbed i…

I just don’t think your opinion is shared by most people. Gmail is the most popular email service in the world, people are always telling me how they prefer Google Docs over everything else and their only competition is Microsoft. Yes it’s free but there is no other service that I rather switch to, and I actually pay for additional storage.

You can’t beat free. The Fastmail web interface is snappier than gmail. And you can’t beat dedicated mail clients like thunderbolt in terms of workflow.

Google doc is wordpad level with very good collaboration (but that’s mostly what people need). People were fine with typewriters, so they are fine with a word processor like google doc. But it’s not at the level of even Libreoffice or Apple’s page in terms of features.

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