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A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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More than once I've read stories about small local counties selling huge plots of lands to companies promising to build data centers, only for those companies to flip the land instantly for double or triple the price. There seems to be no shortage of desperate rural areas that are more than willing to sign ridiculous no-strings-attached deals with companies, in the hopes that they'll geta a couple of years with econo…

"value creation"

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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American zoning is weird. You can't walk to a grocery store, but you can walk to a data center.

You cant walk to a data center either

Literally in the article is a proposed development that is (easily) walkable from residential houses.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

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Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

You're edging on terrorism

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

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Correct. Leaders not afraid of their constituents are prone to resume driven decision making.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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More than once I've read stories about small local counties selling huge plots of lands to companies promising to build data centers, only for those companies to flip the land instantly for double or triple the price. There seems to be no shortage of desperate rural areas that are more than willing to sign ridiculous no-strings-attached deals with companies, in the hopes that they'll geta a couple of years with econo…

Well the city could just sell the land for 2-3x the price from the get go, but Karen and the people she elects wants to pretend like their zoning and red tape policies are saving the spotted owl or keeping their retirement nest egg valuable or whatever, so inevitably they red tape themselves into a corner at which point the grift just becomes too juicy and the greedy voters hand the opportunity to an even greedier and cunning bastard on a silver plate who will package it up and sell it to a fake "data center" and the developers get their way anyway.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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post #314

It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

You're edging on terrorism

People have weird kinks these days

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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Lots of endowments come with strings attached. We made a charitable donation to a local university for them to buy some specific science outreach equipment, they bought it. This all seems reasonable to me. If you want my money or things, you’ll have to use them like I suggest.

To a reasonable extent, including this case, yes.

But there are limits - with finite resources like land, the present-day owners should not be subject to the whims of men who've been dead for 150+ years.

If in my great-great-great-grandfather's day he wanted part of his legacy to be land passed to his son who'd pass it on to his son and so on - that shouldn't stop me passing it on to my daughter.

Re: A Farmer Donated Land to Turn into a Park. The City Is Building a Data Center

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It's exhausting that the "solution" to problems like this is getting tens or hundreds of thousands of citizens stressed until enough public attention gives some small chance of redress. I'm not calling for violence, but if we can't get these things fixed in court there has to be a more effect and more forceful avenue for protest than venting on internet forums.

I saw a clip the other day of an American comedian doing crowd work in Paris. He asked the audience what America should do, and the French said - something like - they should punch the police more and light things on fire. To me that sounds crazy! But, I can see how it works for the French. They protest all the time, and the government is very responsive to the needs of the people. Much more so than the American gove…

Those two things are contradictory. Obviously the government isn't very responsive if they are constantly protesting.
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