Notes on DeepSeek

Post by culi » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 6:28 PM UTC

SXX wrote: post #66

culi wrote: post #49

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US used AI (Claude on Maven) to determine a girl's elementary school as a target in war[0] and then triple tapped it and you're still more worried about hypothetical misuses of the single country responsible for this technology not being concentrated in the hands of a few powerful elite? ffs [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/11/...

Its horrible event, but it was hit because Iranian regime builds schools and hospitals across the street from military bases. Nothing to do with AI and can happen in any war. Do some research, check sattelite imagery: https://goo.gl/maps/ZoAXkw1iFwyF7exQ8?g_st=ac PS: I not trying defend bombing schools, but posting that its "AI" resposible is opposite of what you need to do if you care. Its military - there been spec…

Post by flowbarai » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 7:05 PM UTC

bel8 wrote: post #5

From the notes, they seem humble and empathic. We're lucky to have China imposing competiton to the western AI megacorps. If it wasn't for China, I would probably have to spend $100/mo on AI instead of $10 like I do currently while using DeepSeek and MiMo (opencode Go plan). And while I could do so comfortably, I feel for those who can't. It must feel incredibly isolating to only watch others have access to expensive…

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 7:59 PM UTC

sometimelurker wrote: post #67

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thanks. this really isnt that long, might as well paste in full here since OP deleted. Notes on DeepSeek: We visited the company HQ last Tuesday. It was founded in 2023 by Liang Wenfeng and operated out of his hedge fund, High-Flyer, until somewhat recently. The company released their R1 model in January 2025, so it was interesting to see what they’ve been doing The company is located in an unmarked, 12-story buildin…

> They were not at all concerned with some kind of hostile / AGI takeover scenario. this doesn't sound belivable, or at least it seems off. competent ai engineers should have good intution about how agents work, and what happens when they don't do what you want them to do: https://www.forbes.com/sites/boazsobrado/2026/03/11/alibabas...

Post by genewitch » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 8:23 PM UTC

ValentineC wrote: post #54

genewitch wrote: post #25

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> kids were pushed to use AI for homework, now it is disallowed and frowned upon. In short mixed messaging. in the early 2000s in california universities you'd get marked down for citing wikipedia. so the good souls told everyone "see the number in brackets[2] after what you're trying to cite the article for? just click that then click the archive.org or whatever link there, then cite that ." Now? i think wiki is con…

I think Wikipedia's still considered unreliable, but the question that should be asked is whether the author even read the source in "the number in brackets" to ensure that it's even backed properly. Just like how people should use AI for research, I guess.

Post by pooploop64 » Wed, Jun 10, 2026, 9:33 PM UTC

pstuart wrote: post #64

sinuhe69 wrote: post #53

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The CCP is very active in the matter of AI. In fact, the DeepSeek moment was responsible for Xi calling for a private meeting with tech bosses, including the exiled Alibaba founder Ma. Which is practically unheard of in China politics. I don't have enough information to say whether the Chinese leadership sees AI "just as the next technology" or they are more cautious due to its double-sword nature. But the immense ef…

There's plenty to not like about the CCP, but their strategic investment in the country as a whole is impressive. It would be great to have that on our side as well but with the current state of things that is a non-starter.