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Policy on the AI Exponential

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Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#21

Can we not open up every article talking to working professionals as if they’re children? I like to stay up to date on things but more and more I’m finding myself pointing codex at a URL and saying “get to the point”.

He wrote it with ai that’s why

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#22

I have to be honest, I am tired of reading these arrogant, self-absorbed posts from Dario and Anthropic in general. Opening with this lord of the rings reference just feels like they are trying too hard and are untrustworthy. As annoying as their tone is, the real big danger is what they are setting up for. All this fear-mongering around Mythos, the overly aggressive controls on Fable, and these manifestos they keep…

I mean he wants to be trusted but he also absolutely doesn't support freedom of speech in that sense, and I doubt anyone with power or influence over ai policy does?

If you find a good lobbying group with money who can push for it let HN know.

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#23
I know this is likely just for IPO hype but when I read things like this I sometimes wonder if I must be missing something. I use agents everyday and find them really useful and they save me a lot of headache. At the same time I find that if I let it self-direct at a high level at all it generally makes bad choices that cause me headaches later so I can’t really give them autonomy. Enough people seem to believe this exponential line of thinking though that I keep having to wonder: am I the one missing something here? Is there some magic tool that I haven’t found yet that will cure cancer?

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#24
It's crazy how all these tech CEOs develop the same sense of ethics that seeks to make the foundation of open research and development that made their efforts possible and may threaten their market position illegal in the name of safety against nebulously-defined risks

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#25
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well obviously he'll have the AI 'dispose' of the poor and live a life as a king with a select few farmed humans and have the world as a play thing. Really the entire future of AI at this point seems like "Don't worry about it, we'll figure out when we get there". Works a lot better if you're extremely rich and can afford your own private security.

I never understood why people setting up bunkers expect the security to still be loyal after whatever happens.

Even loyal security would hardly be sufficient. If a million people have decided they want your head on a pike, even a billionaire cannot afford a big enough army. And what exactly is a billionaire in that world anyway?

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#27

I have to be honest, I am tired of reading these arrogant, self-absorbed posts from Dario and Anthropic in general. Opening with this lord of the rings reference just feels like they are trying too hard and are untrustworthy. As annoying as their tone is, the real big danger is what they are setting up for. All this fear-mongering around Mythos, the overly aggressive controls on Fable, and these manifestos they keep…

I mean he wants to be trusted but he also absolutely doesn't support freedom of speech in that sense, and I doubt anyone with power or influence over ai policy does? If you find a good lobbying group with money who can push for it let HN know.

To be honest, at this point I’d take any group at all willing to usefully and non-hypocritically push for free speech (as a general societal value, not just a US-specific legal notion).

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean he wants to be trusted but he also absolutely doesn't support freedom of speech in that sense, and I doubt anyone with power or influence over ai policy does? If you find a good lobbying group with money who can push for it let HN know.

To be honest, at this point I’d take any group at all willing to usefully and non-hypocritically push for free speech (as a general societal value, not just a US-specific legal notion).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Individual_Righ... has been doing alright recently?

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#29
post #17

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LOTR is easy to love. It's a classic story arc, well told, and well adapted for mass consumption.

It's also a very thinly veiled metaphor for the ceaseless pursuit of industrialization in every aspect of life chipping away at the humanity and metaphorical magic of the human experience, and the perils of embarking on that endeavour to the exclusion of everything else.

Personally, I find some humour in this situation.

Re: Policy on the AI Exponential

#30
I feel completely baffled by the other responses on this thread. People viewing this purely as a marketing stunt, regulatory capture or attack on their freedoms, with seemingly no appreciation of the real threat that AI could pose to society and even humanity given its current rate of progress.

I'm not going to claim that the CEO of pre-IPO company has no incentive to bolster the claims of his tech, but to completely disregard everything he is saying based on that seems awfully binary.

I don't know whether people are just high on copium, spouting "it's just fancy autocomplete" or "only humans can really be creative" on every LLM-related thread, but it is impossible to deny that in a span of a few years we've gone from models that could barely put together a sentence, to something maybe not equivalent to a junior developer, but at least resembling it.

And sure, you can point out every flaw that current day LLMs have, just how everyone pointed out that Stable Diffusion couldn't generate accurate hands (until it could 6 months later!). But the gradient is pretty clear and I am yet to see a well-argued narrative from anyone why scaling laws should fail in the next year or two (by which point it feels like we're going to have a real problem, extrapolating the current trajectory).

I'm very glad this discussion is at least being had, and I wish everyone would get off their high-horse and take things a bit more seriously.

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