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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#351

uBlock Origin lite exists. And in couple years usage I see no difference from non lite version.

The author of both appears to disagree.

His opinion is irrelevant. User experience is all that matters.

As a developer I've often built "inferior" versions of products for specific user groups. The product worked perfectly for those users, they saw no difference. Yet, when asked, I'd maintain that it's inferior because . And you know what? We are both right.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#352

I wonder if Edge will follow suit, it will be an odd world if MS ends up being the good guy for once.

>Other Chromium-based browsers like Opera and Microsoft Edge could soon follow suit too. Although it is not specified, Edge began disabling uBlock Origin back in February

Cmon, it's in the article.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#353

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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/netflix-1080p...

Yes, but: "This add-on is not actively monitored for security by Mozilla. Make sure you trust it before installing."

Most of the extensions for Firefox say that. For some reason even 7TV has that badge.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#354

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While you can install the Firefox uBlock Origin extension in Orion on iOS, it doesn't block any ads. This has been reported for some time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43203237 Could you please clarify?

They can’t modify webkit on ios. They also don’t appear to contribute upstream. So it’s just not supported.

Exactly. And that is why I find the parent comment from the Orion PM misleading at best.

Because it sounds like uBlock Origin works on iOS, when in reality it doesn’t and probably won‘t in the forseeable future.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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The classic 'those guys did something bad, so I am going to go with the guys who are absolute assholes doing several orders of magnitude more bad things now instead' response. That usually means that whoever utters it was just looking for a sycophantic excuse to go with the bigger threat because it is more convenient to them (for now).

It's remarkable how often this happens, isn't it? One incident of someone not living up to standards is suddenly an opportunity to abandon standards and go with known bad actors. It's like people giving up on the MSM and immediately latching onto propaganda Youtubers instead.

People latch onto consistency and hypocrisy as their filters.

The problem is that anyone trying to actually be better is usually inconsistent and hypocritical at some level as in that "you criticize society, yet you participate in it" comic.

If you attempt to filter out all traces of hypocrisy from your trusted sources, you wind up listening to the absolute worst people.

The people trying to do better are usually the ones struggling with conflicts and inconsistencies.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Yeah, pissing off the ecosystem is a great way to drive users to your competitors. Requiring users to manually install and update a popular extension is a subpar experience. It seems they spent so much of their budget on the CEO's salary that they couldn't afford an extension review team. Quoting open-paren comment (2024): > As far as I can tell, there are maybe two reviewers that are based in Europe (Romania?). The…

Even if their review is flawed with false positive rejections, you'd think they have checks to require approvals from up the chain for poster child extensions that without which FF would be nothing.

You confused uBlock Origin and uBlock Origin Lite seemingly.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#357

I wonder if Edge will follow suit, it will be an odd world if MS ends up being the good guy for once.

>Other Chromium-based browsers like Opera and Microsoft Edge could soon follow suit too. Although it is not specified, Edge began disabling uBlock Origin back in February Cmon, it's in the article.

I read the article.

"could soon" is meaningless

Yes they disabled the extension at one point if you had it installed, but it was 2 clicks to re-enable it. The edge extension store shows 14m active edge ublock origin users.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#358

PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.

I will consider Orion only when it is open source.

Yeah. At least Chromium is open source.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#359
post #258

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I keep firefox as a backup browser after more than 25y of on again off again use. It simply does not work well on a lot of sites including government or bank websites. Wish it did.

But I'm wondering if you are doing something wrong. I just tried nebula in Firefox 151.0.3 and it works flawlessly. Full screen works, all buttons in the player work. I also tried it on Firefox for Android and it works. Do you have any other websites that don't work?

Even on a blank profile.

A lot of web devs simply do not test on anything else, even for billion and trillion dollar companies, I've seen it first hand.

This includes a lot of state and federal government websites.

Note: I have said nothing about nebula, I don't even know what that is if it's not the network overlay.

https://nebula.defined.net/docs/

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#360

PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.

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For context, a small amount (~2% of subscription fees IIRC) goes to Yandex.

The CEO argues that their goal is to provide the best possible search, and that they remain impartial to geopolitical issues. Reducing the quality of their product to pick sides on political issues is not a sacrifice they are willing to make.

Whether or not you agree with this take, framing this as being supporters of the war in Ukraine is extremely dishonest.

And to be clear, while I understand their point, I generally don’t agree. All information comes in a political context. Choosing which information to favor is inextricably tied to political context. If I search for flat earth content, do you show the science? Do you show content that favors the flat earth model? Do you focus on the controversy itself? Those are inherently political choices whether or not you want them to be.

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