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Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by someonebaggy »

simonw wrote: post #4
freedomben wrote: post #2

Good post, but: > A venerable web application pattern that has had a small modern renaissance thanks to Remix Remix is not that popular. I don't think attributing this to remix is accurate. Next.js quite possibly.

The full context of that quote makes it clear that it's meant more as a wry joke: > A venerable web application pattern that has had a small modern renaissance thanks to Remix, form submissions and redirects took a while to explain to my colleagues, on account of everyone being used to heavily client-side web applications. (Although it's not really a joke, it's pretty amazing how many professional web developers thes…

The opposite is why I'd never be a good web developer. I grew up messing around with PHP and if I spent the time to learn the modern stack, I'd constantly be thinking it's stupid.

Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by cyanydeez »

someonebaggy wrote: post #10
entropichorse wrote: post #3

People who built a crappy website using React are just as likely to build a crappy website using Astro, HTML-first approach or any other technology

At least it'll be a fast and crappy website.

yeah, I love when shit loads immediately, so I'm not wasting seconds of my life just to see shit.

Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by arowthway »

afavour wrote: post #5
freedomben wrote: post #2

Good post, but: > A venerable web application pattern that has had a small modern renaissance thanks to Remix Remix is not that popular. I don't think attributing this to remix is accurate. Next.js quite possibly.

I think the author is suggesting that Remix was the inspiration for the renaissance, not that it's necessarily the most popular method for doing so. I'd be curious to see the stats on how often Next.js users lean into the server component model that makes the frontend fast. My anecdotal experience is that it's an afterthought for many. By comparison, Astro (as mentioned by the author) makes you think about this stuff…

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Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by nicoburns »

someonebaggy wrote: post #10
entropichorse wrote: post #3

People who built a crappy website using React are just as likely to build a crappy website using Astro, HTML-first approach or any other technology

At least it'll be a fast and crappy website.

It's definitely possible to make slow server-rendered website. Most of the slow client-side apps are slow because they're waiting on slow network requests.

(I still very much support fast, simple HTML websites. The good ones are a fantastic user experience)

Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by rafram »

romanovcode wrote: post #14

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No we don't. There are lots of countries with software outsourcing industries, and contractors in any country can be good or bad. Would you rather have a top IIT graduate, or someone who took a year of programming classes at a community college in Fresno?

Re: Building an HTML-first site doubled our users overnight

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Post by myself248 »

tootie wrote: post #9

I was a little confused by "doubled our users" since that's more about inbound traffic than site experience. I guess it's really shorthand for "halved form abandonment" which is still pretty great.

I think that's even more significant, since it's measuring people who cared enough to click the form in the first place, which is juicier than just page loads.
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