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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by esseph »

preg_match wrote: post #252
qweqwe14 wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. You do realize that people have stuff to do and want their browser to be both 1) fast and 2) compatible with all websites? Firefox is slower than Chromium, and always will have some compatibility issues, because all websites are made with Chromium in mind. You can pretend all you want that "well ackshually standards exist and all website makers should use things from the standard", but it's not realistic, everyon…

Chromium is technically faster but in practice it doesn’t matter if you don’t have an adblocker. Adblocking significantly lowers render and JS load and lessens memory pressure. It varies site to site, but keep in mind that ads have to be fetched and then displayed. That’s not free. Firefox with uBlock origin is basically as fast as a web browser can get.

> It varies site to site, but keep in mind that ads have to be fetched and then displayed. That’s not free.

Move your ad blocking to a different layer. Like say, network level.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by close04 »

rntksi wrote: post #183
close04 wrote: post #154

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I'm with you on the first one and that's the closest reason why you could call Firefox payment "ad money". But the rest are not too strong. Google makes a lot of non-ad money too, even if it's a smaller portion than ads. You don't call airlines "banks" just because they make all of their money from currency-like "miles", and even fly at a loss [0]. What I want to say is that calling it "ad money" makes Firefox look b…

You're mis-representing things here. As in my reply further below, Q1 2026 you can see Google makes 70% of revenue from Ads, the non-ad money you refer to is only 1/3. But if you look at net income, 85% of the net income from Google comes from Services (including Ads). The Airlines story is taken out of context and different from Google, Delta for example in the Q1 2026 filing you can see they have a revenue of $15.8…

When someone says that all money a company pays is "money from their main segment", that's intentionally misrepresenting. In this case what's important is what the money is for, not from. Calling it "Firefox had ad-money coming in" can only be bad faith, the usual social media rage bait.

Now everyone comes out of the woodwork with "well akshully" because there's an interpretation where they can plausibly claim "technically I'm right" despite knowing they are sending the wrong message.

Basketball player LeBron James made more money from endorsements than sports, gas stations make more money from selling coffee and food than gas, and fast-food giant McDonald's makes more money from rent than from fast-food. If you called a gas station "a grocery store" you'd be technically right but also practically and pointlessly wrong.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by ivanmontillam »

esseph wrote: post #253
doublerabbit wrote: post #172

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I wouldn't say so. They're not offering their cloud at the same scale other competitors. Not sure when the last was I saw advertising for unlike AWS, Azure. Felt more like their cloud services were more of a side product for when "the cloud" was the trendy buzzword and a way to justify their infrastructure costs. That and keeping a leg in the egg & spoon race.

GCP is growing faster than either AWS or Azure, roughly 60% a year. AWS seems to have stagnated in growth. Azure is a clown car.

Still wouldn't touch GCP with a 10-foot pole.

Too much dependency in Google[0].

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[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48396596

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by lelanthran »

subscribed wrote: post #254
lelanthran wrote: post #184

Good! Give everyone the push they need to break the web homogeny of Chrome everywhere. I'm tired of all the (mostly technical) people whining that they need Chrome, and only Chrome can browse the internet. Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work and conveniently "it was some time back and I don't remember the details". I've been using FF since before it was called Firefox. In the last 10 years I've not come ac…

> whining - Chrome is safer due to the proper sandboxing of tabs. - Try watching anything on YouTube on Firefox - for me even 360p stream (on 12c, mostly idle Linux PC) stutters to the point of being unwatchable. None of the is/browser settings work. Yeah, I realise YouTube is owned by Google That's just my first two (just look it up, don't take my word for it), to show your "whining" claim is just an uneducated host…

> - Try watching anything on YouTube on Firefox - for me even 360p stream (on 12c, mostly idle Linux PC) stutters to the point of being unwatchable.

I'm literally watching Lowko videos right now, on a computer made in maybe 2010, running Linux Mint and FF.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by wolvesechoes »

HerbManic wrote: post #28

Just remember that Google is essentially an advertising company and that they were always going to squeeze this opening closed as soon as they could get away with it. I do fear for a future were even Firefox ends up caving in. Ladybird browser might be our only hope until something legal comes along to block functionality.

> Ladybird browser might be our only hope

God help us.

Maybe after few another "we are switching from language X to language Y" blogposts.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by tpm »

ChoGGi wrote: post #251
HelloMcFly wrote: post #242

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I've used Firefox across devices, across the years. This just isn't my experience, at all, remotely. And I have had to use Chrome (now it is Edge) for many work functions, so I do have the A/B comparisons. I'm not doubting your experience, fine, but I also know I'm not "pretending" anything in my own experience.

Firefox on Android 16, it sucks the battery up in background mode (even with permission to use background turned off). If I manually close it no issue.

doesn't happen in my case (OnePlus 15/Android 16, Firefox background usage allowed in some "smart" mode whatever that means, doesn't suck the battery in background although it's on most of the time).

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by hamburgererror »

yannicklesuisse wrote: post #246

PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.

I will consider Orion only when it is open source.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by red_alpacalypse »

yannicklesuisse wrote: post #246

PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.

While you can install the Firefox uBlock Origin extension in Orion on iOS, it doesn't block any ads.

This has been reported for some time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43203237

Could you please clarify?

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by mead5432 »

yannicklesuisse wrote: post #246

PM of Orion here. Orion ( https://orionbrowser.com ) is a WebKit-based browser for Mac, Linux, iPadOS and iOS that supports both Chrome and Firefox extensions natively ⟩ including uBlock Origin. We have no plans to drop extension support. Content blocking is a feature, not a loophole, and we think users should have full control over what runs in their browser.

What about the glaring memory issues that is a pinned thread in your forum? It’s had one comment by a staff member over 5 or so months?

I loved Orion and have been using as a daily driver almost since day 1 including paying for it but now it’s completely unusable. I’ve since moved to Firefox.

The fact that a pinned thread was silent for months concerns me about the future of Orion. It honestly hurts to see.

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