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Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by ChoGGi »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #242
mbmbn wrote: post #127

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Then again, our laptop battery only lasts 1/3 as much on MacOS. I know, I know. The community keeps pretending this isn’t an issue for the last, hum, 15 years? But it is, and for people that are looking for a tool and not for a statement, it quickly drives them away from Firefox back to Chrome browsers.

I've used Firefox across devices, across the years. This just isn't my experience, at all, remotely. And I have had to use Chrome (now it is Edge) for many work functions, so I do have the A/B comparisons. I'm not doubting your experience, fine, but I also know I'm not "pretending" anything in my own experience.

Firefox on Android 16, it sucks the battery up in background mode (even with permission to use background turned off).

If I manually close it no issue.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by preg_match »

qweqwe14 wrote: post #210
lelanthran wrote: post #184

Good! Give everyone the push they need to break the web homogeny of Chrome everywhere. I'm tired of all the (mostly technical) people whining that they need Chrome, and only Chrome can browse the internet. Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work and conveniently "it was some time back and I don't remember the details". I've been using FF since before it was called Firefox. In the last 10 years I've not come ac…

No. You do realize that people have stuff to do and want their browser to be both 1) fast and 2) compatible with all websites? Firefox is slower than Chromium, and always will have some compatibility issues, because all websites are made with Chromium in mind. You can pretend all you want that "well ackshually standards exist and all website makers should use things from the standard", but it's not realistic, everyon…

Chromium is technically faster but in practice it doesn’t matter if you don’t have an adblocker. Adblocking significantly lowers render and JS load and lessens memory pressure. It varies site to site, but keep in mind that ads have to be fetched and then displayed. That’s not free.

Firefox with uBlock origin is basically as fast as a web browser can get.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by esseph »

doublerabbit wrote: post #172
close04 wrote: post #147

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> Google, being an ad giant Isn't Google also a cloud giant?

I wouldn't say so. They're not offering their cloud at the same scale other competitors. Not sure when the last was I saw advertising for unlike AWS, Azure. Felt more like their cloud services were more of a side product for when "the cloud" was the trendy buzzword and a way to justify their infrastructure costs. That and keeping a leg in the egg & spoon race.

GCP is growing faster than either AWS or Azure, roughly 60% a year. AWS seems to have stagnated in growth. Azure is a clown car.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by subscribed »

lelanthran wrote: post #184

Good! Give everyone the push they need to break the web homogeny of Chrome everywhere. I'm tired of all the (mostly technical) people whining that they need Chrome, and only Chrome can browse the internet. Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work and conveniently "it was some time back and I don't remember the details". I've been using FF since before it was called Firefox. In the last 10 years I've not come ac…

> whining

- Chrome is safer due to the proper sandboxing of tabs.

- Try watching anything on YouTube on Firefox - for me even 360p stream (on 12c, mostly idle Linux PC) stutters to the point of being unwatchable. None of the is/browser settings work. Yeah, I realise YouTube is owned by Google

That's just my first two (just look it up, don't take my word for it), to show your "whining" claim is just an uneducated hostility not bound in facts.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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rwmj wrote: post #5

Surprised they still have this page on their site: > https://about.google/company-info/philosophy/ > 1. Focus on the user and all else will follow. > 6. You can make money without doing evil.

See if you can raise it as an issue. There's clearly a grave errors on the page.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by HelloMcFly »

ChoGGi wrote: post #251
HelloMcFly wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used Firefox across devices, across the years. This just isn't my experience, at all, remotely. And I have had to use Chrome (now it is Edge) for many work functions, so I do have the A/B comparisons. I'm not doubting your experience, fine, but I also know I'm not "pretending" anything in my own experience.

Firefox on Android 16, it sucks the battery up in background mode (even with permission to use background turned off). If I manually close it no issue.

I believe you.

I also do not, and have never, experienced this. I've been using Pixel phones since the 3a in 2019/2020.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by esseph »

arowthway wrote: post #233
lelanthran wrote: post #184

Good! Give everyone the push they need to break the web homogeny of Chrome everywhere. I'm tired of all the (mostly technical) people whining that they need Chrome, and only Chrome can browse the internet. Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work and conveniently "it was some time back and I don't remember the details". I've been using FF since before it was called Firefox. In the last 10 years I've not come ac…

'Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work' - For me it was Youtube. Debian 13, Gnome, apt update && apt install firefox, try playing a video. It's always noticebly slower, and last time it didn't even play at all. It might be skill issue or Google malicious behavior or both, but I'm ashamed to say installing Chrome was easier than troubleshooting. I'm slowly growing balls to sacrifice my comfort and migrate non…

> Also, if anyone's wondering, gaming on linux still sucks, just a bit less.

What am I doing wrong? All the games I want to play just seem to work without issue, including new AAA titles, with exceptions for things that use kernel level anticheat that I wouldn't play anyway specifically because of that.

Arc Raiders, Helldivers 2, Factorio, etc just fine. I'm even involved in some alpha / beta testing for a couple of new games.

Just running fedora + proton (wine). I just use the regular steam client like anyone else.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by esseph »

gonzalohm wrote: post #228
zacmps wrote: post #208

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I now daily drive firefox, there are unfortunately plently of broken sites. Nebula's video player is broken in widescreen for example.

Interesting. I also use Firefox and Nebula works fine for me. Do you have any extensions that may be causing that?

I keep firefox as a backup browser after more than 25y of on again off again use.

It simply does not work well on a lot of sites including government or bank websites. Wish it did.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by esseph »

legacynl wrote: post #206
disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #190

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> In the last 10 years I've not come across any site that doesn't work with Firefox I have. The dominos pizza website (at least in Ireland) basically never works with Firefox. I normally end up using Safari for that particular site. Additionally, lots of stuff doesn't work when Advanced Tracking Protection is on, enough that if I have any issues my first step is disabling that.

Did you ever click 'report broken website' button? It's there specifically for those cases.

Fox years with no changes, seemingly.
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