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> rather than opening their platform a tiny bit Handing full access to the data on a user's device over to a company with the scruples of somebody like Facebook is a privacy nightmare, not "opening their platform a tiny bit".
Well, let that be my concern. Why should I trust Apple more than let's say Proton?
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#662Earlier quoted context omitted.
> rather than opening their platform a tiny bit Handing full access to the data on a user's device over to a company with the scruples of somebody like Facebook is a privacy nightmare, not "opening their platform a tiny bit".
Apple could make settings for controlling exactly what is shared with the various assistants installed including Siri itself. No need for defaulting to full access. Apple is not abiding, because they want to use time to really ensure they have the best assistant, before they allow competitors to build assistants for iPhone that can replace Siri (in the EU only probably)
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#663Interesting how the "groundbreaking Private Cloud Compute" cannot rollout due to privacy laws
Yes because DMA doesn’t force 3rd parties to be groundbreakingly secure. Literally anyone could whip up an AI service, get people to use it and just browse the unencrypted logs for data to sell. Which is the issue Apple is having.
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#664> EU regulators on Tuesday slammed Apple This reads more like a tabloid headline than the first sentence of a Reuters article.
Depends on the news you read I guess, to me the word "slammed" is pretty commonplace in politics news-reporting and has been for a while (read: well before the modern take-down content that's so common to social media platforms).
Looking at Google Ngram, usage of "slams" started inflecting upwards in the early 90's and then even more strongly in the mid-2000's. [0] I wonder if that second increase represents the type of usage I had in mind.
(I looked at "slams" rather than "slammed" to try to avoid some of the other modern meanings, like being slammed with work.)
[0] https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=slams&year_sta...
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Well, let that be my concern. Why should I trust Apple more than let's say Proton?
Why would you even consider buying an Apple device if you don't trust they will protect your data?
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> The EU Parliament cannot pass, change or repeal laws. I suggest you verify that.
It's a constitutional fact. The most they can do is propose amendments to laws proposed by the Commission, but the Commission drives the whole process and isn't required to accept them (worst case, they just cancel the law and then try again later). There is literally nobody you can vote for to if you want to repeal the DMA.
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I totally agree cookie banners are awful, but you could equally lay the blame at the foot of website owners who are so keen to track your movements across the web that they'll layer this awful UX on their users. No tracking cookies => no cookie banners.
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No one complains (out loud) about US regulations either. Ultimately it’s about the weight you can throw as well as PR. Probably easier for Apple to make the EU look bad and drag their feet on it. I imagine they’re still not thrilled about the Lightening->USB-C change
Apple was literally the first major company to go all-in on USB-C. They shipped entire devices that only had USB-C ports. If anything, I would wager they were happy about it. They were going to have to do it anyway, and it would inevitably cause friction for users who were already invested in Lightning cables and third-party devices. The EU forcing this just meant they could shift the blame for any negative sentiment…
Putting USB-C on their laptops in 2016 is a different discussion and it wasn’t a tough decision because none of their computers had lightning integrated into it anyways. If anything we should be asking why they did that and then took 7 years to put them on their phones. They could’ve had one port for literally everything since 2016 and yet the EU had to force them to do it.