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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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There are 2 reasons why I'm using chromium (with ublock origin lite) over Firefox: 1. Chromium is significantly faster (maybe 5 to 10x faster on certain tasks mostly around canvas but anything that requires fast ui really). Every time I use Firefox it feels like it has some kind of serious problem. If chrome was this slow I would stop working and start investigating what part of my computer is broken. This experience…

Ctrl + shift + R would solve your second problem at all times. And I don't think your first point is quantified correctly and I am sure there is no data to back it up. But I understand the appeal of trying to quantify your personal experience.

Yup, or open dev tools and enable "disable cache". This applies only while dev tools is open

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#193
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Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)

Edge user here. For one, chromium is faster than firefox, any given page will load about 20% faster, another reason is edge workspaces feature, I've grown to like it, which seems to be some sort of chromium feature that everyone bakes in weird ways if at all, and I'm still running ublock origin on edge without any funky bypasses.

Then there's a fact that a bunch of sites/webapps straight up refuse to work on firefox and they ask you to install chrome or something. And lastly chromium the most popular browser flavor and as a web dev it helps to see pages through "the same eyes" as my users/customers.

That's about it, the only reason I use firefox every day is their superior picture-in-picture player, chromium one is waaay inferior.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#194
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are 2 reasons why I'm using chromium (with ublock origin lite) over Firefox: 1. Chromium is significantly faster (maybe 5 to 10x faster on certain tasks mostly around canvas but anything that requires fast ui really). Every time I use Firefox it feels like it has some kind of serious problem. If chrome was this slow I would stop working and start investigating what part of my computer is broken. This experience…

Ctrl + shift + R would solve your second problem at all times. And I don't think your first point is quantified correctly and I am sure there is no data to back it up. But I understand the appeal of trying to quantify your personal experience.

I can back up their first point a tiny bit with regards to canvas. The primary product of our company is heavily canvas-based so I’ve always noticed that canvas on Firefox on macs is slower than on Chrome but it used to be in the 2-3x range and nowadays is more in the 1.5x range. They’ve made great improvements and I’ve never noted anything close to 5-10x slowdowns.

On Windows Firefox and Chrome canvas has performed equally well at least for the past ten years. Got no data for linux tho.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#196

Good! Give everyone the push they need to break the web homogeny of Chrome everywhere. I'm tired of all the (mostly technical) people whining that they need Chrome, and only Chrome can browse the internet. Then you ask them for a site that doesn't work and conveniently "it was some time back and I don't remember the details". I've been using FF since before it was called Firefox. In the last 10 years I've not come ac…

For me it's speed. I used FireFox for the same reasons, for years. Every time I started Chrome, it was a breath of fresh air. Everything was just slightly faster to react, to switch tabs, to scroll, to interact. I kept reading posts about how the FireFox team was increasing performance, yet it never seemed to really impact it. Maybe because I often have several windows with a dozen tabs each (yes, one of those people…

> Every time I started Chrome, it was a breath of fresh air. Everything was just slightly faster to react

Are you opening "several windows with a dozen tabs each" in Chrome? If not, then it's hardly a fair comparison.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#197
post #127

Look, we're having a good time on Firefox since November 9, 2004. Come join us!

Then again, our laptop battery only lasts 1/3 as much on MacOS. I know, I know. The community keeps pretending this isn’t an issue for the last, hum, 15 years? But it is, and for people that are looking for a tool and not for a statement, it quickly drives them away from Firefox back to Chrome browsers.

Anything to back those claims up? I use Firefox and didn't really notice this (although I am rarely on battery), and other than Google Meet making my machine throttle (and I blame that on Google not on Mozilla), I don't use Chrome for anything else for my browsing.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

#198

Yet another reason to also perform ad blocking at the network level (e.g. DNS). I’ve found AdGuard Home very easy to maintain. Using Firefox and Orion browsers too.

Actually the main killer feature of UbO for me is cosmetic filtering with element picker, if I wanted just any ad blocker I could use various browsers with built-in adblockers supporting lists.

So much for blocking at network level.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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I'm a Firefox user for about 20yrs (since Firefox 3); but too often I have to use Chrome, as so many sites only work properly on it; Firefox is really buggy or laggy on those websites; For a time, all those AI chat web pages were just very slow on Firefox even with very little context, whereas Chrome only gets laggy when there is a lot of context.

Are you really sure it’s not because of an add-on? If I remember correctly, Mozilla has said that about 95% of all pages that don’t work aren’t due to Firefox, but to an add-on. I use Firefox exclusively and don’t usually notice that pages don’t work. When that happens, as I said, it’s almost always an add-on that’s to blame. And I dont notice its buggy or laggy. So could be good check your addons next time.

Here are some cases where Firefox really sucks: some of them are specific CSS styles, some are downgraded features, and some of them I just don't know why. As I mentioned here, the ChatGPT web and Gemini web used to be very laggy for no reason—or maybe it was just a bug for me?

I don't think any of this is caused by add-ons, though.

But it's getting better, and most of those problems are just gone;

Still, I keep Chrome around just in case.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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It looks like crunch time is here. Personaly I have never watched add's on the net, by useing alternative browsers for 99% of my time, doing things like downloading a browser to do online banking, and then uninstalling it. Even as a child I didn't like advertisements, and have never owned a TV, for the simple reason that NO advertisement has ever shown me something I wanted, and could have. I have learned to let the net do it's thing, and provide me with work making things that people want, or show a lead to a product if I search (think~tractor part) but the rest is alien and very unpleasant for me to encounter.

Here is the guy who builds the browser I use https://www.stoutner.com/about/

git https://gitweb.stoutner.com/?p=PrivacyBrowserAndroid.git;a=s...

download https://www.stoutner.com/privacy-browser-android/changelog/

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