At least with hardware, people are actually making something and have to use their brains.
RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
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Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#72Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#73Makes perfect sense, all things considered. I've only joined a handful of hackathons. My best experience was in Amsterdam in like 2022, where half our team went to sleep and me and another guy spent the entire night locked up in a venue with 200 other people building stuff and bashing our heads against the table, looking for optimizations, hacks, half-assed solutions to near-impossible problems. In recent years, I've…
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#74Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#75as someone who got into linux and open source in the early 90s I will never stop being sad that "hackathon" morphed into a competitive activity, rather than "let's all get together and build some free software collaboratively". I guess the latter tends to get called a "dev sprint" these days, but it's always the first thing I think of when I hear "hackathon"
I had the chance to attend the LibreOffice one back in 2023 but life got in the way and I missed it sadly.
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#76> As software subtends to becoming more and more "solved" ... Really? Maybe if we do not care about robustness, elegance, coherence, consistency and generally anything beyond making a buck and leaving more waste behind... sure!
At least game jams still carry on that general spirit and the people that try to put together stuff with AI immediately make it obvious.
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#77Just ban internet connection.
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#78Hackathons turned into “nice ui with mock data”-athons. Whoever got the best ui person on their team won. I benefitted from this a few times!
I’ve seen powerpoint presentations win, and that was my last hackathon
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#79The author notes that vibecoding has entirely replaced coding in hackathons (where speed is essential, bugs are tolerated, and only the demo is judged). I agree. But then says this means software is “solved” so only hardware hackathons matter. Why? If anything, I think software hackathons have become more useful, because ideas have become more useful. Even if ideas are cheap, not everyone has 24-72 hours for a protot…
>But then says this means software is “solved” so only hardware hackathons matter. Why? Because ai cannot do hardware, it cannot solder wire, it cannot replace red led with blue one and find current limiting resistor for optimal brightness. It cannot see what part of enclosure needs to be cut. It cannot see the startup transient on the ldo.
It can.
> it cannot solder wire
Plenty of placement and soldering machines exist that are far faster than humans. They just aren't yet integrated with the bot.
For the stuff that is unusual or particularly difficult, just add a human. Same as with code.
> it cannot replace red led with blue one and find current limiting resistor for optimal brightness
Sure it can. Just add a camera.
> It cannot see what part of enclosure needs to be cut.
Challenge accepted.
> It cannot see the startup transient on the ldo.
It can see that using the same tools we use to observe such things. https://github.com/aimoda/rigol-dho824-mcp
Re: RIP software hackathons. Long live the hardware hackathon
#80Hackathons turned into “nice ui with mock data”-athons. Whoever got the best ui person on their team won. I benefitted from this a few times!
When did this happen? I remember judges at hackathons used to be very forgiving about lackluster UIs as long as the idea was cool and at least functional by the presentation time
Presentation-first judging has been a thing for a long time, and unless there is a organizing party that explicitly makes code reviews a part of the scoring, and the organizers ensure attendance quotas for different personas (engineer vs. product vs. designer) it will always drift that way.