They should call it Guiliani Day.
New York City celebrates day without violent crime
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Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#12Have the Beeb given up on editors for their website? The first sentence is so unlikely to be true, "a day entirely without violent crime", really? I could perhaps accept this if they added the word "reported". But the following statement that "Monday was the most bloodshed-free 24-hour period in recent history" is devoid of meaning, if a spokesman really said this then they should be fired. "Least bloodshed" has mean…
I'm with you for the first part, but "50% less" seems to me both clear and strictly equivalent with "half as much". What am I missing?
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#13Have the Beeb given up on editors for their website? The first sentence is so unlikely to be true, "a day entirely without violent crime", really? I could perhaps accept this if they added the word "reported". But the following statement that "Monday was the most bloodshed-free 24-hour period in recent history" is devoid of meaning, if a spokesman really said this then they should be fired. "Least bloodshed" has mean…
I'm with you for the first part, but "50% less" seems to me both clear and strictly equivalent with "half as much". What am I missing?
If I have 200 units of fish, and the next day I have 50% less, then I would indeed have 100 units of fish.
Maybe he meant the opposite, "50% more" versus "double"? If I had 50% more the next day, I would have 300 units of fish, not 400.
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#14they just didn't find that day's body(s).
really, if anything the title of the article is what is wrong with big cities. Why not celebrate a day in Afghanistan where a soldier or enemy combatant doesn't die.
It says the same thing, gee, 364 days of something bad.
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#15There have been 366 murders so far this year in New York City, compared with 472 at this time last year.
As an ex-resident of NYC, while I applaud the fact that violent crime is at its lowest point in 50 years, I still think 366 murders per year (with a month to go) is appalling, big city or not. I'm not sure if murders are equally distributed across boroughs, but assuming they are, 366/5 = ~73 murders per year per borough, or a murder per borough every five days.
The goal should be zero, and we shouldn't rest until it's the norm. An improvement in statistics is great, but I don't exactly see it as a cause for celebration.
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#16There have been 366 murders so far this year in New York City, compared with 472 at this time last year. As an ex-resident of NYC, while I applaud the fact that violent crime is at its lowest point in 50 years, I still think 366 murders per year (with a month to go) is appalling, big city or not. I'm not sure if murders are equally distributed across boroughs, but assuming they are, 366/5 = ~73 murders per year per b…
The goal should be zero, and we shouldn't rest until it's the norm.
Wouldn't that lead to a War on Drugs style situation? You'll basically end up throwing more and more resources and taking away more and more freedoms chasing smaller and smaller marginal returns.
Instead pick a realistic target that will make you look good compared to other cities in the world, say 2 pr. 100000 population or about 160 murders, and work towards that.
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#17What a beautiful thing to report. A significant reduction from 1990's six murders per day ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City ).
Does anyone else think it's odd that that link only records 600 murders in NYC in 2001? I would expect the number to be closer to 3,000.
If you are talking about 9/11, casualties of war & terrorism are not counted for violent crime stats.
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#18There have been 366 murders so far this year in New York City, compared with 472 at this time last year. As an ex-resident of NYC, while I applaud the fact that violent crime is at its lowest point in 50 years, I still think 366 murders per year (with a month to go) is appalling, big city or not. I'm not sure if murders are equally distributed across boroughs, but assuming they are, 366/5 = ~73 murders per year per b…
This sounds like a dream world to me because we rack up that many murders in a week in South Africa.
So whilst it might no be impressive from your perspective I think it's amazing.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm with you for the first part, but "50% less" seems to me both clear and strictly equivalent with "half as much". What am I missing?
If I have 200 units of fish, and the next day I have 50% less, then I would indeed have 100 units of fish. Maybe he meant the opposite, "50% more" versus "double"? If I had 50% more the next day, I would have 300 units of fish, not 400.
I think it was a comment about Mathematical Illiteracy. Many people have little idea what X% more / less actually means.
http://www.amazon.com/Innumeracy-Mathematical-Illiteracy-Its...
Re: New York City celebrates day without violent crime
#20In the article, they kind of give police credit for making this happen. What if it's the war on soda that's doing this?