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Re: Claude Fable 5

#662

From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this…

Seems to me this is more honest than the Mythos claims a while ago. too powerful to release publicly. Too expensive?

Re: Claude Fable 5

#664
What pisses me off is that everything people are doing is so walled garden / closed source. Sharing knowledge between companies would be so fucking useful to humanity.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#665
post #60

Not missing the forest for the trees, this effectively means in 3-5 months China will drop open source models that are every bit as capable and dangerous as current day Mythos except with no safeguards. And the only companies safe from this are the large corporations that shook hands with Anthropic? Because Fable doesn't seem to have actual safeguards, more like 'if you talk about this you will be talking to Opus.' I…

It's more evidence that the future is local. With some time we'll all be running highly capable & efficient open-source models on dedicated NPUs. No censorship, no rate limits, no overpriced subscriptions.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#666
The new data retention policy is interesting. Seems to apply even to enterprise plans on ZDR.

> Finally, we’re making a change to the way we handle business customer data for Fable 5, Mythos 5, and future models with similar or higher capability levels. We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose, and we’ve instituted new privacy protections including logging all human access to the data and ensuring its deletion after 30 days in almost all cases (see this post for further details). The data will help us defend against complex and novel attacks (including new jailbreaks and attacks that operate across many requests) as well as help us identify and reduce false positives.

Re: Claude Fable 5

#668

I've been testing this out and I think my SWE career is dead in the water. Genuinely wondering what value I bring to my employer right now. What value I will bring in a few months when this gets cheaper. I think we're screwed. I may only be an SDE 2 at FAANG but I don't think I have promotion opportunities in my future anymore.

I'd say you're cooked if you don't have multi-agent harnesses burning tokens right now. That's going to be a pre-requisite very soon
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